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> Bradley Manning is still being tortured in > military prison right now. Until more people consider solitary confinement a form of torture, you're not going to win in-roads with this, as people equate torture with physical violence.

> Bradley Manning was stripped and left naked in his cell for seven hours. This was according to the New York Times[1] in March of 2011 and it took place at the Marine brig in Quantico, Va. Might not be torture by most standards (though personally I think solitary confinement is torture) but I would hardly consider it proper conduct. Also, who can say what really happens at Guantanamo... [1] http://www.nytimes.com/20…

7 hours?

That's friendly considering the later reports. According to the UN special rapporteur on torture he was kept in solitary 23 hours a day for 11 months.

Re: Megaupload Assisted FBI vs NinjaVideo, But Evidence Then Used Against Them

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There's been a bumper crop of stupid comments on HN this year, but yours should win the county fair.

Is there a particular era you are thinking of that was that much better than now in this respect?

I'll say it this way: Americans have never been so privacy deprived and frightened of their government as they have been in the last decade.

No one expects Obama to defend your civil liberties. He's invisible most of the time. A middle man to the oligarchy. Some say he is a great "centerist", but I say he's a man with no morals.

Re: Megaupload Assisted FBI vs NinjaVideo, But Evidence Then Used Against Them

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Is there a particular era you are thinking of that was that much better than now in this respect?

I'll say it this way: Americans have never been so privacy deprived and frightened of their government as they have been in the last decade. No one expects Obama to defend your civil liberties. He's invisible most of the time. A middle man to the oligarchy. Some say he is a great "centerist", but I say he's a man with no morals.

Since I find the kill list/drone strikes/unaccountable assassination of civilians issue particularly troubling I can see where you are coming from.

I'm just not convinced that this is a shift in terms of the "US government have been doing whatever the hell they want lately, civil liberties and public opinions be damned" statement. The specifics are different now and the tools for manufacturing consent or controversy are always shifting but the lack of concern for civil liberties or public opinion (beyond what's necessary for horse-race politics) seems like a "new boss, same as the old boss" type thing to me.

Re: Megaupload Assisted FBI vs NinjaVideo, But Evidence Then Used Against Them

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Lately?

There's been a bumper crop of stupid comments on HN this year, but yours should win the county fair.

Now there is the refined argumentation I come to HNN for. Well done, son.
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