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Yes, much better than ICE cars, by any measure.
Tesla's lithium refinery discharges 231,000 gallons of polluted wastewater a day
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Re: Tesla's lithium refinery discharges 231,000 gallons of polluted wastewater a day
#32apparently, despite my thoughts going into this: > Notably, no party has alleged that Tesla is in violation of any law. TCEQ [(Texas Commission on Environmental Quality)] has not found one. Tesla is operating under a permit the state agency issued. The dispute, instead, is about what the permit was supposed to cover, and what got left out of it.
As we all know, laws as written are perfect and just, especially in Texas, especially in relation to the environment. They should stop looking into it at all, really.
Re: Tesla's lithium refinery discharges 231,000 gallons of polluted wastewater a day
#33Re: Tesla's lithium refinery discharges 231,000 gallons of polluted wastewater a day
#34apparently, despite my thoughts going into this: > Notably, no party has alleged that Tesla is in violation of any law. TCEQ [(Texas Commission on Environmental Quality)] has not found one. Tesla is operating under a permit the state agency issued. The dispute, instead, is about what the permit was supposed to cover, and what got left out of it.
As we all know, laws as written are perfect and just, especially in Texas, especially in relation to the environment. They should stop looking into it at all, really.
that is a weird extrapolation from my comment. did you mean to reply to someone else?
i made no comment on whether the laws, as written, are appropriate or not.
Re: Tesla's lithium refinery discharges 231,000 gallons of polluted wastewater a day
#35Obviously, discharging "dark and murky" polluted water is bad. But some of the figures from the lab report don't seem that terrible: * Hexavalent chromium at 0.0104 milligrams per liter, just above the lab’s reporting limit of 0.01 mg/L. Hexavalent chromium is classified as a known human carcinogen by the US National Toxicology Program. It is the substance the Erin Brockovich case was built around. * Arsenic at 0.002…
If I wanted to fall under that reporting limit, can I just dilute my wastewater a bit more?
The classic pre-EPA slogan comes to mind: "the solution to pollution is dilution".
Re: Tesla's lithium refinery discharges 231,000 gallons of polluted wastewater a day
#36Obviously, discharging "dark and murky" polluted water is bad. But some of the figures from the lab report don't seem that terrible: * Hexavalent chromium at 0.0104 milligrams per liter, just above the lab’s reporting limit of 0.01 mg/L. Hexavalent chromium is classified as a known human carcinogen by the US National Toxicology Program. It is the substance the Erin Brockovich case was built around. * Arsenic at 0.002…
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Re: Tesla's lithium refinery discharges 231,000 gallons of polluted wastewater a day
#37Obviously, discharging "dark and murky" polluted water is bad. But some of the figures from the lab report don't seem that terrible: * Hexavalent chromium at 0.0104 milligrams per liter, just above the lab’s reporting limit of 0.01 mg/L. Hexavalent chromium is classified as a known human carcinogen by the US National Toxicology Program. It is the substance the Erin Brockovich case was built around. * Arsenic at 0.002…
If I wanted to fall under that reporting limit, can I just dilute my wastewater a bit more?
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
So, it's fine as long as it's legal, then? How about when it enters the food chain and starts to accumulate? Will the elements say that "we're under legal limits, and accumulate slowly, so we will act nice and don't poison the organism we're in?" Love that way of thinking.
> So, it's fine as long as it's legal, then? > Love that way of thinking. I mean.. yeah, kinda'? We live in a society made up of laws, that's kind of the premise. So if we don't think something is fine, we can make it illegal (and we often do). It's a pretty good way of thinking methinks, what's your alternative?
Dunno, maybe strive to release no pollutants at all? Then we wouldn't need all the pesky big government overreach.
Re: Tesla's lithium refinery discharges 231,000 gallons of polluted wastewater a day
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It really is, particularly because of what it ends up replacing.
The alternative is burning and refining fossil fuels.
Louisiana has a large section of land referred to as "cancer alley". It's called that due to the released toxins from oil refining (most likely benzene).
The lithium extracted today will end up circulating in the supply chain for decades. Unlike the fossil fuels refined today which are burned tomorrow, fully releasing all their toxins.
Now, it could be cleaner. There's really no reason they couldn't distill the waste water and then reuse it.
Re: Tesla's lithium refinery discharges 231,000 gallons of polluted wastewater a day
#40Obviously, discharging "dark and murky" polluted water is bad. But some of the figures from the lab report don't seem that terrible: * Hexavalent chromium at 0.0104 milligrams per liter, just above the lab’s reporting limit of 0.01 mg/L. Hexavalent chromium is classified as a known human carcinogen by the US National Toxicology Program. It is the substance the Erin Brockovich case was built around. * Arsenic at 0.002…
please stop please stop and educate yourself. I dislike that this is the top message in a forum where we’re supposed to dig deeper.
The US regulatory standards are terrible. https://www.loudounwater.org/information-hexavalent-chromium...
The actual limits are orders of magnitude lower. Educate yourself.