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Re: Generating Music (with an algorithm)

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Post by bozho » Thu, Nov 22, 2012, 6:29 PM UTC

mixedbit wrote: post #10

In 1995 Douglas Hofstadter wrote a short essay that describes his amazement with a piece of music composed by a program. Interesting reading: http://www.cs.washington.edu/education/courses/cse403/03su/m...

Great. The composer doesn't need to have gone through emotional breakdown, drugs, or whatever, to create beautiful music. He just needs talant. And I think talant may be at some point expressed in zeroes and ones.

Re: Generating Music (with an algorithm)

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Post by tomjen3 » Thu, Nov 22, 2012, 6:30 PM UTC

Strilanc wrote: post #4

I've been wondering how long it would be until web sites like this started showing up, where you can listen to automatically generated music on demand. Hopefully they keep improving until they make the best human composers look mediocre, despite being millions of times faster. Unbounded amounts of new high quality low cost music? Yes please.

Even better, this could be a very good way to permanently kill RIAA -- and because tech like this can't really be made illegal and requires no special permission, ingrediences or tools, there is nothing at all they can do about it.

Re: Generating Music (with an algorithm)

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Nov 22, 2012, 6:43 PM UTC

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Re: Generating Music (with an algorithm)

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Post by DanBC » Thu, Nov 22, 2012, 6:43 PM UTC

Strilanc wrote: post #4

I've been wondering how long it would be until web sites like this started showing up, where you can listen to automatically generated music on demand. Hopefully they keep improving until they make the best human composers look mediocre, despite being millions of times faster. Unbounded amounts of new high quality low cost music? Yes please.

Have you seen DarwinTunes?

(http://darwintunes.org/)

Re: Generating Music (with an algorithm)

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Post by gtani » Thu, Nov 22, 2012, 6:44 PM UTC

Hmm, no mention of Prof. Cope at UCSC

http://artsites.ucsc.edu/faculty/cope/experiments.htm

Re: Generating Music (with an algorithm)

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Post by bozho » Thu, Nov 22, 2012, 6:56 PM UTC

DanBC wrote: post #14

Strilanc wrote: post #4

I've been wondering how long it would be until web sites like this started showing up, where you can listen to automatically generated music on demand. Hopefully they keep improving until they make the best human composers look mediocre, despite being millions of times faster. Unbounded amounts of new high quality low cost music? Yes please.

Have you seen DarwinTunes? ( http://darwintunes.org/ )

Nope. Pretty interesting, though. Will read about it more.

Re: Generating Music (with an algorithm)

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Post by nanook » Thu, Nov 22, 2012, 7:07 PM UTC

What's really missing is a hook. None of this music would feel familiar even after a lot of listens because there's hardly any repetition. It should be interesting to try to generate a track that sticks to popular song structures(with each part sticking to an underlying theme).

I've always wanted to look into algorithmic composition. Could someone suggest a good place to start?

Re: Generating Music (with an algorithm)

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Post by diminish » Thu, Nov 22, 2012, 7:23 PM UTC

Terrific, I guess the first virtual minds will love these first algorithmic songs; from an historical point of view.

Re: Generating Music (with an algorithm)

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Post by mrcharles » Thu, Nov 22, 2012, 7:27 PM UTC

This is probably one of the best algorithmic music generators I've heard. It has a lot more feel of composition to it than most I've heard.

Re: Generating Music (with an algorithm)

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Post by hayksaakian » Thu, Nov 22, 2012, 7:32 PM UTC

The music at any given point sounds great, like classic video game bgm, but theres one thing that irks me. I don't feel a clear start and end to the music, it just seems abrupt both ways.