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Re: Google I/O

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Post by hadlock »

hijodelsol wrote: post #74

It's discouraging to see Google price Gemini 3.5 Flash at 3x the cost of Gemini 3 Flash. I would think that most people that deployed this model in production would have used it for low latency tasks, classification/categorization, customer support or basic RAG-/RAG-style chatbots. Performance on coding benchmarks is nice and all, but where is the "intelligence too cheap to measure"? This new cost point is quite proh…

I guess you didn't get the memo from last month: Loss leader pricing is over, you're now paying a less subsidized price, and will continue to until it's profitable

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Post by globular-toast »

Andrex wrote: post #49
LetsGetTechnicl wrote: post #16

Why would I want to vibe code a "fully functional operating system"?

Tinkering and experimentation. Could be a good use for older hardware. Why not.

You won't understand a thing, though. You already have the source code for Linux, Minix and tons of other OSes, pedagogical or otherwise. Why generate yet another that you won't understand?

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Post by dist-epoch »

storus wrote: post #14
brcmthrowaway wrote: post #11

Theres no way Google won't win the AI race $INTC and $GOOG are good buys right now!

Winning the AI race means obsoleting their current profitable business. They might win but at what cost?

In the last year GOOG stock doubled, MSFT remained the same.

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Post by useruser125524 »

Alive-in-2025 wrote: post #94
r_lee wrote: post #61

can't wait to hear all about the new Agentic workflows you can build with AI and build with agentic agent swarms and build more workflows to do more with Enterprise AI with Gemini Enterprise Agent Platform and elevate efficiency with the power of AI and unlock value with AI agents. also can't wait to hear more about AI integrations across Google AI Workspace, like AI Gmail or AI docs (powered by Gemini Enterprise AI)…

I can't think of a way to mock all the ai hype more than what they actually just talk about. "Next, our hacker news AI agent reads and comments for you based on your commenting history, no need to think or do anything at all - we'll automate your time wasting and make better, more relevant jokes than you & your karma score will increase exponentially."

outsource your personality to us you little piggies, num num

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Post by adithyareddy »

breezybottom wrote: post #126
adithyareddy wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only speaking for myself, but I use it a lot, and intentionally. Enough that I set up a search engine shortcut for it in my browser (g type prompt here ). I much prefer it to having to click through links to find things. My last handful of searches were: - Looking up open hours for a local store - Defining words - "postgres select where string has prefix" - "cloudformation read parameter from ssm" Things where I want…

That's crazy. Those AI overviews consistently tell me wrong information.

I agree, the AI overview is definitely worse. I'm talking specifically about the AI mode search (at https://www.google.com/search?udm=50&aep=11). The AI overview seems to be summarizing the search results that were returned for your query already, while AI mode seems like it's doing its own searches based on your query.

I would definitely give it a shot if you haven't tried it before.

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Post by port11 »

numlock86 wrote: post #108
r_lee wrote: post #61

can't wait to hear all about the new Agentic workflows you can build with AI and build with agentic agent swarms and build more workflows to do more with Enterprise AI with Gemini Enterprise Agent Platform and elevate efficiency with the power of AI and unlock value with AI agents. also can't wait to hear more about AI integrations across Google AI Workspace, like AI Gmail or AI docs (powered by Gemini Enterprise AI)…

While I get your point, this kind of gives me "Old man yelling at cloud" vibes. Yes, all the AI talk and bullshit bingo became quite annoying at this point, and I also can't wait for it to settle. But AI is here, and it's here to stay. Wether we like it or not. It's like what dotcom was for the internet back then. We'll get through this eventually - with a bubble bursting here and there - but making fun of it with ov…

The point is that other topics exist that deserve talking about. There is SO much talk about LLMs everywhere, and in this kind of event they will eclipse other, perhaps more interesting conversations.

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Post by hijodelsol »

parliament32 wrote: post #130
hijodelsol wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am aware that it was likely subsidized or at least did not have appropriate margins. But over time, that same capability should become profitable if parameter efficiency and chips improve. For many customer facing use cases outside of coding assistants, optimizing for speed, basic logic/maths and conversational texts matters much more than being able to use 40 tools simultaneously. I would have hoped that Google wo…

Has your AWS bill gone down in the last decade? Despite "efficiency" and chip improvements? Why would you expect text-generator-as-a-service to be any different?

When using Hetzner, DigitalOcean or any other VPS service together with Cloudflare, I can handle millions of page views for 5-50$ a month at pricing that has stayed nominally the same for a long time and due to inflation and performance gains of the underlying chips has basically become cheaper.
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