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Re: OpenBSD 7.9

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>Here's what I can figure out: you need root to set up the environment just so. I guess you just don't understand what unveil does.

Your arrogance is continued proof you could never comprehend the work that goes into building, releasing, and maintaining an entire OS, and your contributions will forever be limited to snarky negativity on message boards.

Anything on unveil and not about me?

Re: OpenBSD 7.9

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post #140

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I don't really see the LLM use as anti-GNU. It would be no different if the code was written in a proprietary IDE with fancy code completion. GNU doesn't restrict contributors to using exclusively free software for their contributions (if they did, they likely wouldn't have gotten very far considering how much work apple did on GCC). As long as the license is free and GPL compatible, it isn't inherently non-GNU (thou…

A local LLM with GPL compatible input and with options to properly tag the source with a full backtracking of the code? Maybe, but that's not what's happening, but massive license laundering.

I never said anything to the contrary, I agree 100%

Re: OpenBSD 7.9

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BSDs are interesting projects. As I understand it there's a broad difference of them all doing things reasonably well but a) Free is general-purpose, b) Net is especially portable/many architecture and Open is security focused

The main differences between OpenBSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD and DragonFly BSD

https://unixdigest.com/articles/the-main-differences-between...

Re: OpenBSD 7.9

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post #90

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Is OpenBSD actually more secure than Linux? I have not been able to find any data to support this—only some vague opinions.

"Is Secure" is subjective. I would be in favour to say that out of the box OpenBSD is more secure than Linux.

You are correct; OpenBSD is secure by default. And it's not subjective at all.

The homepage of https://www.openbsd.org proudly states "Only two remote holes in the default install, in a heck of a long time!" if they didn't have the evidence to support the statement, the internet would have forced them to remove it by now. ;-)

Remote (exploitable) holes are the ones we all care about.

Re: OpenBSD 7.9

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With all the security issues constantly being uncovered in other Operating Systems - which will only accelerate with Ai - it’s time everyone considers OpenBSD. Their decades-long security-focus is second to none. We have fully converted from Ubuntu/Debian to OpenBSD. No looking back.

Is OpenBSD actually more secure than Linux? I have not been able to find any data to support this—only some vague opinions.

macOS is BSD roots on top of Darwin

Re: OpenBSD 7.9

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post #4

BSDs are interesting projects. As I understand it there's a broad difference of them all doing things reasonably well but a) Free is general-purpose, b) Net is especially portable/many architecture and Open is security focused

FreeBSD is mainly server focused. There's been work on the desktop recently, but it isn't what FreeBSD devs are paid to focus on. To be fair to the people paying them, it's a damn good server OS. Also, check out DragonflyBSD. It has a really nice filesystem and Dillon does good work

FreeBSD is focused on making a good, general purpose operating system. It just happens to be very good at being a server. It's also very good at being a desktop.

Re: OpenBSD 7.9

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> Enabled IPv6 autoconf (SLAAC) by default. Sweet! I’m just about to replace pfsense with openbsd on my router. Smoothly setting up ipv6 is a bit of a headscratcher atm, mainly because i’ve never had to understand it before.

I recently updated an older OpenBSD router and firewall and the amount of native IPv6 support right out of the box makes this an unbelievable breeze.

Re: OpenBSD 7.9

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Is OpenBSD actually more secure than Linux? I have not been able to find any data to support this—only some vague opinions.

The Data: Compare the number of CVE vulnerability trends over time between Linux: https://www.cvedetails.com/vendor/33 and OpenBSD: https://www.cvedetails.com/vendor/97 It's not even close! It's nearly two orders of magnitude higher for Linux. This isn't anecdotal or “vague opinion” CVEs are facts. You can ask the follow-up question: Why is that? And there are many reasons. It could just be that Linux having more use…

US export restrictions? There are broad license exceptions since decades, so kernels like Linux are free distributable. Same would apply to OpenBSD.

Re: OpenBSD 7.9

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post #84

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So, a break out of chroot in a chroot jailed app would be a non-issue because I need root to set it up?

If you need root to set up the escape , then yes that is relatively uninteresting. Like, we know chroot can't contain root.

Thanks. It was not evident from the example whether root inside of the sandbox is necessary - I assumed creating arbitrary symlinks doesn't require any particular capabilities, and there's nothing special about the locations.

Though it's not clear to me now:

- why was this patched then?

- is the point about root that non-root wouldn't have access to passwd anyway?

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