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Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

#51

Post by redanddead »

Traster wrote: post #27

Karpathy is probably one of the biggest names in AI, I do wonder where he fits now. He's sort of bounced around Tesla back to OpenAI back to independent. He sort of left OpenAI before it really hit the inflection point, and he was at Tesla for a long time and they didn't really deliver what they wanted on the AI side. Now he's bounced around a few places. I understand that the leaders in this market play this silly g…

I read this as a bad sign for Anthropic. Relying yet again on more hype instead of improving products.

OpenAI’s hiring recently has been much stronger, whether through luck or structure. The “no-name” guys have actual taste. I love that. I don’t care that they’re no-names.

I don’t know Karpathy personally, I won’t speak bad about a man I don’t know. I hope he makes CC better. I just read this as hype. My point is that there’s nothing he has that an empowered no-name product manager doesn’t. It’s like Alex Wang at Meta. That acq didn’t redeem Meta. They actually lost LeCun. Where’s Llama today?

Regardless of what Anthropic’s share price is, OpenAI has been fucking killing it recently. I don’t take particular pleasure in saying that, i’ve been a google and gemini guy for years

My lens is meritocratic. My experience is as an extremely heavy user of both company’s full suite of products in the range of 5 digits per month. My interest is better products not hype.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

#52

Post by mellosouls »

Karpathy is a terrific communicator and populariser of the LLM landscape, and I do hope this isn't going to mean his work in that regard now gets dropped, or dropped into a private Anthropic-only void.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

#53

Post by misiti3780 »

redanddead wrote: post #51
Traster wrote: post #27

Karpathy is probably one of the biggest names in AI, I do wonder where he fits now. He's sort of bounced around Tesla back to OpenAI back to independent. He sort of left OpenAI before it really hit the inflection point, and he was at Tesla for a long time and they didn't really deliver what they wanted on the AI side. Now he's bounced around a few places. I understand that the leaders in this market play this silly g…

I read this as a bad sign for Anthropic. Relying yet again on more hype instead of improving products. OpenAI’s hiring recently has been much stronger, whether through luck or structure. The “no-name” guys have actual taste. I love that. I don’t care that they’re no-names. I don’t know Karpathy personally, I won’t speak bad about a man I don’t know. I hope he makes CC better. I just read this as hype. My point is tha…

really - what am i missing?

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

#54

Post by j_bum »

redanddead wrote: post #51
Traster wrote: post #27

Karpathy is probably one of the biggest names in AI, I do wonder where he fits now. He's sort of bounced around Tesla back to OpenAI back to independent. He sort of left OpenAI before it really hit the inflection point, and he was at Tesla for a long time and they didn't really deliver what they wanted on the AI side. Now he's bounced around a few places. I understand that the leaders in this market play this silly g…

I read this as a bad sign for Anthropic. Relying yet again on more hype instead of improving products. OpenAI’s hiring recently has been much stronger, whether through luck or structure. The “no-name” guys have actual taste. I love that. I don’t care that they’re no-names. I don’t know Karpathy personally, I won’t speak bad about a man I don’t know. I hope he makes CC better. I just read this as hype. My point is tha…

Curious what you mean by killing it? Products? Model quality?

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by redanddead »

misiti3780 wrote: post #53
redanddead wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read this as a bad sign for Anthropic. Relying yet again on more hype instead of improving products. OpenAI’s hiring recently has been much stronger, whether through luck or structure. The “no-name” guys have actual taste. I love that. I don’t care that they’re no-names. I don’t know Karpathy personally, I won’t speak bad about a man I don’t know. I hope he makes CC better. I just read this as hype. My point is tha…

really - what am i missing?

It just feels like more hype instead of product focus.

Example 1, just from top of my mind, Composer 2.5 released today. Go look at their benchmark.

Composer 2.5 and Opus 4.7 ranked around the same, meanwhile gpt-5.5 was miles ahead.

You wouldn’t have caught me dead using a gpt model 2 years ago

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

#56

Post by skywhopper »

Barbing wrote: post #49
philipwhiuk wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anthropic just bought compute off XAI so he's more tightly bound not less.

That’s a gift to both parties there, yes they sure did (ghosttown Grok servers will get some use, Claude customers able to do things such as… using the service) Karpathy’s so smart and he has to deal with the reply quality we see on XCancel there… one click away from Hacker News and suddenly every reaction is trash instead of insight and deep insight we see here (Plus the trash I post, but we’ve got some range, not m…

“ghosttown Grok servers will get some use, Claude customers able to do things such as… using the service”

… Memphis/Southaven residents will get more air pollution.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

#57

Post by amunozo »

gk1 wrote: post #33
bilsbie wrote: post #24

He should have done his own lab. He seems like someone capable of it and might bring some unique ideas.

It’s not enough to have unique ideas. You need capital, compute, people, distribution, customers… There’s huge appeal to joining a place that has all those things and lets you pursue your unique ideas without worrying about all that.

I'm pretty sure Karpathy can have billions of capital if he wanted to.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by skywhopper »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #28
bilsbie wrote: post #24

He should have done his own lab. He seems like someone capable of it and might bring some unique ideas.

> He should have done his own lab Which raises the question: what can he do at Anthropic that he couldn't on his own?

Make a lot of money.

Re: I’ve joined Anthropic

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Post by canada_dry »

prodigycorp wrote: post #35
Traster wrote: post #27

Karpathy is probably one of the biggest names in AI, I do wonder where he fits now. He's sort of bounced around Tesla back to OpenAI back to independent. He sort of left OpenAI before it really hit the inflection point, and he was at Tesla for a long time and they didn't really deliver what they wanted on the AI side. Now he's bounced around a few places. I understand that the leaders in this market play this silly g…

i wouldn't be surprised if he just becomes a glorified marketer for anthro. im also going to guess that whatever research he does would be free roam research that primarily serves to market the fact that claude was able to help perform the research. the visible stuff he's been working on has been mostly agent soft skills. off the top of my head is autoresearch and his the wiki knowledge stuff. nothing particularly gr…

> just becomes a glorified marketer

That implies Karpathy is either dumb or desperate and he is neither of those by a long shot.

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