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Photo GIMP – A Patch for GIMP 3 for Photoshop Users

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Re: Photo GIMP – A Patch for GIMP 3 for Photoshop Users

#12
I see usually two options:

    a) Solution X does it generally better than Y and their solution is *ported*.
    b) Adapt to solution Y. The end.
Most of the time it is b. Because Vim shall not be Emacs. Linux shall not be Windows. And macOS shall not be Windows either.

Do you remember that foolish Windows-Themes on Linux? Luckily GNOME has killed custom theming. And Apple also. Custom theming is a horrible mess aside from areas where it is intentionally (e.g. Vim color schemes).

But it is also possible that Gimp moves to option A. At some point and they are interested in user-interface improvements. Most people just want to use Single-Window-Mode which shall be default for many years.

Re: Photo GIMP – A Patch for GIMP 3 for Photoshop Users

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People use Photoshop for sheer capability, not for the layout, naming conventions and shortcuts.

I'm pretty sure 95% of photoshop users only use a feature subset thats also available in GIMP (except for maybe the latest generative infill)

I highly doubt that. Photoshop, even for 95% of users, is pretty heavy on non-destructive editing. GIMP did not have that for a very long time and is no where near feature parity today AFAIK.

Don't get me wrong, Photoshop sucks hard, Adobe as a company even more, but on a technical level most Photoshop users cannot transition to GIMP.

Edit: Although, I have to highlight that GIMP has made noticeable progress within the last years. I can now, finally, group two layers together and apply a drop shadow effect to the group, which correctly applies to all layers within the group. It's been quite a while...

Re: Photo GIMP – A Patch for GIMP 3 for Photoshop Users

#17

People use Photoshop for sheer capability, not for the layout, naming conventions and shortcuts.

Time to bring back again the (true) story of when I was working at uni and they were looking for another graphic designer to join our team. Boss told us one of the candidates refused to do the test because the computer didn't have Photoshop installed. All they needed to do with an image editor was to crop an image.

I really think most people use Photoshop for the same reason they use Windows - they don't really know/they don't want to learn anything else.

Re: Photo GIMP – A Patch for GIMP 3 for Photoshop Users

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post #12

I see usually two options: a) Solution X does it generally better than Y and their solution is *ported*. b) Adapt to solution Y. The end. Most of the time it is b. Because Vim shall not be Emacs. Linux shall not be Windows. And macOS shall not be Windows either. Do you remember that foolish Windows-Themes on Linux? Luckily GNOME has killed custom theming. And Apple also. Custom theming is a horrible mess aside from a…

c) There's a sane, standard way of doing things that everybody is familiar with, but you do decide to actively go against it for decades because you like doing things your way, and if anyone has anything to say about it they're "free to fork" and you "don't owe anyone anything", but despite that, everyone should use your thing because it's free and you're the good guy, and otherwise they're supporting the empire of evil.

This is why Krita is sweeping the floor with gimp - sane UI that's way closer to Photoshop. You need to rebind 5 things and you can use it.

> Luckily GNOME has killed custom theming

Same deal. What do you care what I do with my computer? GNOME is hanging on by nature of being the default, but very few people pick it when they have the choice. It will be dead in 10 years.

Re: Photo GIMP – A Patch for GIMP 3 for Photoshop Users

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I am glad someone is putting in this effort. Many years ago, there was another project called GIMPshop to make GIMP's interface more accessible to Photoshop users. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMPshop They taught Photoshop at school, so I found it easier to use GIMPshop than regular GIMP.

That's actually what I thought this submission was. Didn't remember what it was called, so I didn't realize PhotoGIMP wasn't GIMPshop.

Re: Photo GIMP – A Patch for GIMP 3 for Photoshop Users

#20
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure 95% of photoshop users only use a feature subset thats also available in GIMP (except for maybe the latest generative infill)

I highly doubt that. Photoshop, even for 95% of users, is pretty heavy on non-destructive editing. GIMP did not have that for a very long time and is no where near feature parity today AFAIK. Don't get me wrong, Photoshop sucks hard, Adobe as a company even more, but on a technical level most Photoshop users cannot transition to GIMP. Edit: Although, I have to highlight that GIMP has made noticeable progress within t…

I have talked to plenty of people for which Krita was their preferred Photoshop replacement.

Photoshop does a lot of advanced editing well, but that's a feature many professionals don't really need. It's a bit like Excel: whole companies have moved from Excel to Google Docs, but many companies will never be able to use anything else because only Excel manages to render their VBA-sheet-database monstrosities correctly.

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