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Re: AI eats the world (Spring 26) [pdf]

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Doesn't seem like a bot, and even if it were, the critique is germane. Calling for a name is a little threatening.

Looking at a 80 slide deck and saying that the charts are 'fantasies' is not a germane criticism at all. it's handwaving.

One of the graphs has two series: net revenue for one company, gross revenue for another. Absolutely ridiculous.

And that's just one example. You also haven't adjusted for inflation in your graphs that span multiple decades. Not to mention that the graphs themselves are not related to what you're discussing most of the time. You're just pointing at random historical developments and seemingly claiming they imply something for AI. They don't.

Also you don't name your sources. You just say "Companies" for most of them. Or a single name. Ridiculous. Those are not sources. You should identify the documents.

This is incredibly low quality work. A college freshman would do better.

Re: AI eats the world (Spring 26) [pdf]

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post #121

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Looking at a 80 slide deck and saying that the charts are 'fantasies' is not a germane criticism at all. it's handwaving.

One of the graphs has two series: net revenue for one company, gross revenue for another. Absolutely ridiculous. And that's just one example. You also haven't adjusted for inflation in your graphs that span multiple decades. Not to mention that the graphs themselves are not related to what you're discussing most of the time. You're just pointing at random historical developments and seemingly claiming they imply some…

All of these points are simply wrong.

I charted the revenue reported by Anthropic and OpenAI as gross and net because those are the numbers they disclose. Anthropic does not report net revenue nor give us any way to calculate that, and the same in reverse for OpenAI. It would be great if we had GAAP revenue, but we don't. This is what we have, and it still tells an important story. What are we supposed to do - just not show the data?

All of the charts indicate whether they are adjusted for inflation. There is no rigid convention on this, but the general practice is that you don't adjust up to maybe 20 years and generally do convert for more than that, unless inflation itself is under discussion, which it is not here. Meanwhile, the text on each slide explains the purpose of the comparison. None of them are random.

Every chart is correctly sourced exactly as you will see it in any other piece of financial or industry research. It is not industry practice to cite specific documents or provide footnotes.

You've clearly just never seen any industry or financial analysis before, and are unfamiliar with basic and universal conventions that run back decades. That's fine. Being rude about it is not.

Re: AI eats the world (Spring 26) [pdf]

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Just like how starting a chip fab was relatively easy back in the 80s and 90s. There were dozens of chip fab companies in the 80s. It turns out that fabs follow Rock's Law which is that the capital cost to build a new fab doubles every 4 years. This means it will quickly get rid of the less competitive players. This is not dissimilar to the LLM scaling laws where you need a magnitude more compute to get unlock a new…

Yes, I wrote about Rock’s Law too, but we don’t know that this is how these models will develop

Evidence point to the same type of scaling law. Compute for a training run grows 4-5x every year.[0] I'm sure this will slow down but the premise remains that weaker competitors will not be able to maintain this pace. We already see labs like Cohere, Mistral, Inflection AI, Adept, Character.ai, and others bow out of the frontier race. I'm also skeptical that Meta, xAI can catch up. Even Google has trouble keeping up.

Even if this isn't true, comparing telecom bits to tokens is wrong. Bits are the same no matter what telecom transfers them. Tokens are not all the same. The quality varies.

We're already seeing a massive divide between frontier models and lesser models in growth rates. Anthropic is adding $10b - $15b every month in ARR. This figure likely dwarfs open source labs. This is all because its models are maybe 10-15% better.

The cost to inference a 1T param frontier model is the same as a 1T param open source model. Therefore, if the frontier model is even 10-15% better, it will gobble up the market over time.

Lastly, even though Claude Code and Codex are the biggest revenue drivers for Anthropic and OpenAI today, I don't believe this will be true 2-5 year from now. I believe selling their tokens via API will be their biggest. The sum of applications in the world will dwarf coding in market size. For example, biotech, finance, physics, engineering, robotics, sensor data, etc. This is why I think OpenAI and Anthropic are becoming more like iOS and Android than AT&T and Verizon. Applications will build on top of OpenAI and Anthropic just like iOS and Android.

[0]https://epoch.ai/blog/training-compute-of-frontier-ai-models...

Re: AI eats the world (Spring 26) [pdf]

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What's wrong with that? There are now materials that allow you to have solar panels on a window (so they are not opaque anymore), and we can put data centers under our feet.

Did you read the original comment? > AI data centers crowd us out. > the entire surface of the earth will be covered with solar panels and data centers.

Yes, so our buildings' windows will be solar panels, what's wrong with that? And all our floors can be data centers, what's wrong with that?

Re: AI eats the world (Spring 26) [pdf]

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If coding is such a big part of LLM agents' usage at the moment, I do not understand how far the best models will continue to shine and take the largest chunk of revenue. I am far away from tech hubs but I think better harness will utilize smaller models for more constrained, efficient and reliable coding agents. In a way this is like distilling (but it is not) but you can make better harness (tackle more edge cases,…

excellent work!

Re: AI eats the world (Spring 26) [pdf]

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>>Companies report ‘annualised’ revenue, defined as sum of previous 4 weeks multiplied by 13. why is it multiplied by 13?

In business there's 52 (4*13) weeks in a year and as a result, 2080 regular working hours in a year (40*52). I think these are just generally agreed upon ways to define time for simplicity. In some (most?) systems your 'hourly wage' is simply your salary divided by 2080, trying to divide your salary by other metrics to determine hourly wage tend to wonk the numbers a bit.

Re: AI eats the world (Spring 26) [pdf]

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post #94

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Did you read the original comment? > AI data centers crowd us out. > the entire surface of the earth will be covered with solar panels and data centers.

Yes, so our buildings' windows will be solar panels, what's wrong with that? And all our floors can be data centers, what's wrong with that?

> the entire surface of the earth will be covered with solar panels and data centers.

Re: AI eats the world (Spring 26) [pdf]

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> Imagine asking “What will be changed by the internet?” in 1997

Pretty much all of the stuff that was suggested back then or earlier: Shopping, advertising, video conferencing, collaboration, software distribution, media consumption, banking, finance and of course communication overall.

Most of these ideas weren't exactly new in 1997, but go back to services like CompuServe and even Douglas Engelbart's Mother of All Demos. The bottlenecks were bandwidth and personal computer performance (both of which were then predictably following Moore's law), not human imagination.

A few examples that a lot of people correctly extrapolated from: NLS (1968), PictureTel (1987) and later LiveShare, IndyCam (1993), CUSeeMee (1995), RealAudio (1995), RealVideo (1997).

Perhaps the core business problem with LLM:s isn't finding a product-market fit, but that our imaginations have been running wild with expectations on "AI" since at least the 1950s, and now we have something that quacks - but doesn't quite walk - like a duck.

Re: AI eats the world (Spring 26) [pdf]

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> Imagine asking “What will be changed by the internet?” in 1997 Pretty much all of the stuff that was suggested back then or earlier: Shopping, advertising, video conferencing, collaboration, software distribution, media consumption, banking, finance and of course communication overall. Most of these ideas weren't exactly new in 1997, but go back to services like CompuServe and even Douglas Engelbart's Mother of All…

Knowing why we're trying to build something is a good smell test to segregate promising tech from snake oil, in my experience.

Take quantum computers for example, a lot of the time people will compare that to the dawn of classical computing, with claims such as "we can't know yet what we'll be able to achieve, we have to build it first!". Except that even the first classical computers were built with goals and applications in mind. Turing's was to decrypt Nazi codes, for example. Instead, when asking a quantum computing company what they're trying to achieve, they'll gesture vaguely at "chemistry, finance, ecology".

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