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Police Raid 9-Year-Old Pirate Bay Girl

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Re: Police Raid 9-Year-Old Pirate Bay Girl

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Post by DanBC »

The age of criminal responsibility in Finland is 15. So I'm at a loss at what is going to happen to this 9 year old girl. Certainly downloading music without paying for it is wrong. But there are much better ways of dealing with this than sending in the police.

And justice needs to be public. (With a few rare exceptions). Forcing people to sign NDAs is creepy and weird.

I'd be interested to know what would have happened if the father sent photocopies of the receipts for the music that they bought the next day - I like to think that would have been enough to call off the lawyers but I understand that it probably isn't.

Re: Police Raid 9-Year-Old Pirate Bay Girl

#13

Post by xentronium »

barredo wrote: post #4
gavanwoolery wrote: post #2

I'm not going to lie, this might be the best headline ever.

I hope it's not too off-topic to say that I thought someone sent a TheOnion article to HN.

It made me wonder if there were any theonion articles on hn. It turns out, there were a couple of them that even received comments and upvotes, but not much for the last 3 years. My guess is that submissions from theonion are auto-banned.

[1] http://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/submissions&q=the...

Re: Police Raid 9-Year-Old Pirate Bay Girl

#14

Post by netcan »

DanBC wrote: post #11

The age of criminal responsibility in Finland is 15. So I'm at a loss at what is going to happen to this 9 year old girl. Certainly downloading music without paying for it is wrong. But there are much better ways of dealing with this than sending in the police. And justice needs to be public. (With a few rare exceptions). Forcing people to sign NDAs is creepy and weird. I'd be interested to know what would have happe…

Certainly?

Re: Police Raid 9-Year-Old Pirate Bay Girl

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Post by polymatter »

DanBC wrote: post #11

The age of criminal responsibility in Finland is 15. So I'm at a loss at what is going to happen to this 9 year old girl. Certainly downloading music without paying for it is wrong. But there are much better ways of dealing with this than sending in the police. And justice needs to be public. (With a few rare exceptions). Forcing people to sign NDAs is creepy and weird. I'd be interested to know what would have happe…

IANAL but I expect they will pin it on the father on the basis that he paid for internet access and therefore responsible.

Re: Police Raid 9-Year-Old Pirate Bay Girl

#16

Post by rimantas »

xentronium wrote: post #13
barredo wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope it's not too off-topic to say that I thought someone sent a TheOnion article to HN.

It made me wonder if there were any theonion articles on hn. It turns out, there were a couple of them that even received comments and upvotes, but not much for the last 3 years. My guess is that submissions from theonion are auto-banned. [1] http://www.hnsearch.com/search#request/submissions&q=the...

That is kinda sad, actually. Many articles on The Onion are more intellectually stimulating than stuff on HN front page.

Re: Police Raid 9-Year-Old Pirate Bay Girl

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Post by [deleted] »

polymatter wrote: post #15
DanBC wrote: post #11

The age of criminal responsibility in Finland is 15. So I'm at a loss at what is going to happen to this 9 year old girl. Certainly downloading music without paying for it is wrong. But there are much better ways of dealing with this than sending in the police. And justice needs to be public. (With a few rare exceptions). Forcing people to sign NDAs is creepy and weird. I'd be interested to know what would have happe…

IANAL but I expect they will pin it on the father on the basis that he paid for internet access and therefore responsible.

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Re: Police Raid 9-Year-Old Pirate Bay Girl

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Post by DanBC »

netcan wrote: post #14
DanBC wrote: post #11

The age of criminal responsibility in Finland is 15. So I'm at a loss at what is going to happen to this 9 year old girl. Certainly downloading music without paying for it is wrong. But there are much better ways of dealing with this than sending in the police. And justice needs to be public. (With a few rare exceptions). Forcing people to sign NDAs is creepy and weird. I'd be interested to know what would have happe…

Certainly?

Certainly.

Perhaps I needed a bit more clarification:

"Downloading music that should be paid for, and not paying for it, is wrong if you keep that music for longer than you need to decide whether to buy it or not is wrong. Most people would make an exception for format shifting. EG you own a CD and download a pirate MP3. In theory this needs to be paid for (and is included in law in some areas) but in practice it's not much different to ripping your CD yourself."

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