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Enough with the AI FOMO, go slow-mo, says Domo CDO

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Re: Enough with the AI FOMO, go slow-mo, says Domo CDO

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"Why aren't people more resentful that these companies have pushed this technology upon them and now everyone is feeling a tremendous amount of anxiety," - Chris Willis, chief design officer and futurist for data platform biz Domo > Governed Data for AI Agents > Built with trusted AI models in mind > Enterprise AI for your business data > Connect your business data. Build AI-powered dashboards, agents, and automation…

Is the CDOs statement to be read as "We have no moat."?

We have the infamous "Dropbox" is a weekend project, well now I'd say we are in the era of it.

And I bet I could build within 5 working day a Saas replacement of Domo.

There is no moat anymore.

Re: Enough with the AI FOMO, go slow-mo, says Domo CDO

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. This place is legit delululand. I speak to people who work at the upper echelons across various industries regularly and whether you want to believe it or not idc - the management are desperately trying to push AI but it just doesn’t add much value to what they do. At best it’s just a really good search engine across internal data. Many of these places already had things called macros in place so there’s bare…

Indeed, and HN also has a huge "pro-AI" bias... everytime you make a comment to point out that AI is first and foremost a political artefact, rather than a technology, and that it will be weaponized against people, they downvote... Although they know perfectly well what happened to their search / personal data, but they still don't want to see the obvious

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Re: Enough with the AI FOMO, go slow-mo, says Domo CDO

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the CDOs statement to be read as "We have no moat."?

We have the infamous "Dropbox" is a weekend project, well now I'd say we are in the era of it. And I bet I could build within 5 working day a Saas replacement of Domo. There is no moat anymore.

Thing is, software isn't the issue when building a business - Dropbox being a great example because even now people are like "but that's just rsync-as-a-service". Software and making a business out of it are two different things.

Re: Enough with the AI FOMO, go slow-mo, says Domo CDO

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>>“… wonders why people aren't more annoyed with AI companies “ Outside a small bubble within Silicon Valley and the finance ecosystem funding it, I’d say most folks are increasingly fed up with AI. It’s a very noticeable shift these last 6 months. The mood went from excited, to just annoyed at all the slop and folks using AI as a half-baked easy button vs doing real deep value-add thought. Business is also noticing…

Agreed. This place is legit delululand. I speak to people who work at the upper echelons across various industries regularly and whether you want to believe it or not idc - the management are desperately trying to push AI but it just doesn’t add much value to what they do. At best it’s just a really good search engine across internal data. Many of these places already had things called macros in place so there’s bare…

> Agreed. This place is legit delululand.

Funny, I see HN as having a high concentration of anti-AI comments and general AI doubt. Yours included.

The vibe among less technical people I talk to has a negative sentiment about AI and AI companies, but largely because they see AI as more effective and capable. They think it’s coming for their job and way of life and they don’t like that.

Re: Enough with the AI FOMO, go slow-mo, says Domo CDO

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the CDOs statement to be read as "We have no moat."?

We have the infamous "Dropbox" is a weekend project, well now I'd say we are in the era of it. And I bet I could build within 5 working day a Saas replacement of Domo. There is no moat anymore.

>We have the infamous "Dropbox" is a weekend project...

Oh really? Then why is syncthing (for example), still so much harder to use than dropbox?

Re: Enough with the AI FOMO, go slow-mo, says Domo CDO

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> The result is a lot of proof-of-concept projects that lack what's required to make them durable, trustworthy, and deployable at scale. Starting with business needs first is essential. A bunch of frivolous projects that fail sounds to me like a pretty good way to learn how far a new technology can be trusted. If you're considering putting AI into something load bearing you either need a engineer who has not been par…

> ...learn how far a new technology can be trusted I think you've missed the point of this statement: > Starting with business needs first is essential This is a negative shift I've seen in product now. Instead of emphasizing with the user and trying to understand the domain, processes, real-world usage scenarios, product teams are now building junk prototypes and throwing these over the wall at the user. Maybe this…

Perhaps I should have mentioned that if you built something in ignorance of the business' needs, you shouldn't then go exposing the business' customers to that thing.

If somebody is shipping the prototypes, that's a problem. I was just speaking up for the utility of playing around as a necessary part of learning your tools.

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No comment on the content of the article, but I have to say bravo to whoever wrote that headline.

Reminds me of the Arrested Development scene: Bob Loblaw Lobs Law Bomb.

I’ll be working on my law blog. The Bob Loblaw Law Blog.

Re: Enough with the AI FOMO, go slow-mo, says Domo CDO

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. This place is legit delululand. I speak to people who work at the upper echelons across various industries regularly and whether you want to believe it or not idc - the management are desperately trying to push AI but it just doesn’t add much value to what they do. At best it’s just a really good search engine across internal data. Many of these places already had things called macros in place so there’s bare…

> Agreed. This place is legit delululand. Funny, I see HN as having a high concentration of anti-AI comments and general AI doubt. Yours included. The vibe among less technical people I talk to has a negative sentiment about AI and AI companies, but largely because they see AI as more effective and capable. They think it’s coming for their job and way of life and they don’t like that.

Your post captures exactly what I’m saying.

If AI is coming for people’s jobs and it’s more effective, the management of firms across multiple industries should reflect that by firing lots of people right now. Why wait? Collect the extra cash flows today given future expectations of technological progress. Who says no to more money? Lmfao.

Or… perhaps they don’t quite stand all that much behind that claim.

Moreover ‘less technical’ means what exactly? I referenced people who are senior managers who are trying to wedge AI where they can. Who are you referencing?

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>>“… wonders why people aren't more annoyed with AI companies “ Outside a small bubble within Silicon Valley and the finance ecosystem funding it, I’d say most folks are increasingly fed up with AI. It’s a very noticeable shift these last 6 months. The mood went from excited, to just annoyed at all the slop and folks using AI as a half-baked easy button vs doing real deep value-add thought. Business is also noticing…

I think it's just hard to know this for the people working on it. AI radically changed my life. I'm doing at least 10 times more, more ambitious, higher quality work. I've been listening to people around me talking about alignment and the singularity for almost a decade. It's strange to imagine that people live in a world where this isn't and hasn't been happening for a while now. "Over-hyped" is not the word I would…

> I'm doing at least 10 times more, more ambitious, higher quality work.

Is your pay scaling in a similar manner? Or have you just raised the floor for what's expected of you?

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