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Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by giancarlostoro »

stevex wrote: post #34

I don't think that's the direction this is going to take. Replacing a mature app with an incredibly wide audience and a million use cases may or may not be possible, but what's actually happening is that people are making an app that does exactly what they want, and using it to solve their own needs. Previously you might use Excel to take raw data from various places and analyze it, create charts, reports, extract fi…

> Photoshop is a good example for that, actually. How many people are just using ChatGPT or Gemini to get the image edits they want instead of reaching for Photoshop? I don't know if this is showing up in Adobe's subscription numbers, yet, but I expect it will eventually.

This is also probably why nobody is vibecoding photoshop, why bother when a model can do it?

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by j_w »

Aeolun wrote: post #247
j_w wrote: post #243

The blog post is weird. It feels like shadowboxing. "Where are the vibecoded X app replacements?" questions aren't asking that question, they are making the argument that the author is. Software is immensely complicated and "vibecoding" is not going to build products. You could reword the original question as: "If LLM coding is so fantastic and game changing, why are major products which are hugely profitable not bat…

> Why would OpenAI/Anthropic sell the LLM access itself, instead of hoarding all the compute they can and become mega conglomerates in a takeover of all software? Because selling shovels is a guaranteed way to earn you money, unlike digging for gold.

But that is part of the point of the argument which the author is shadowboxing against. If LLM sellers are shovel sellers, does that not make you suspicious when they are the ones telling you that there is gold in the hills?

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by lstodd »

quacked wrote: post #224
joenot443 wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> neither will the one off random app that only your household uses This reminds me a bit of the 2010s idea that every house would have a 3D printer to make one off repairs. Years later, this still seems far out of reach. If anything, it seems to have been settled that most non-technicals don't want a 3D printer. Vibe coded apps are great, but unless they're hitting an already open API, they're effectively hermetic.…

> Years later, this still seems far out of reach. If anything, it seems to have been settled that most non-technicals don't want a 3D printer. They would if you could print things out of durable materials that had weight and structure. I haven't seen any 3D printers that do anything except for that light resin-plastic that feels like you could snap it easily. But if I could print a PVC section for my sink that would…

I actually printed a few PETG ones. They are nigh indestructable compared to PVC.

As noted above, it's the mechanical design / CAD that has to be seriously learned to do anything useful.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by dTal »

quacked wrote: post #224
joenot443 wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> neither will the one off random app that only your household uses This reminds me a bit of the 2010s idea that every house would have a 3D printer to make one off repairs. Years later, this still seems far out of reach. If anything, it seems to have been settled that most non-technicals don't want a 3D printer. Vibe coded apps are great, but unless they're hitting an already open API, they're effectively hermetic.…

> Years later, this still seems far out of reach. If anything, it seems to have been settled that most non-technicals don't want a 3D printer. They would if you could print things out of durable materials that had weight and structure. I haven't seen any 3D printers that do anything except for that light resin-plastic that feels like you could snap it easily. But if I could print a PVC section for my sink that would…

You're quite wrong.

You can, in fact, print perfectly well in any thermoplastic, including PVC (although it's unpopular due to toxic fumes). Nor is strength neccessarily an issue. In fact you can 3D print polycarbonate parts strong enough to scratch-build a drone - props and all.

No - the reason you wouldn't want to print parts for your kitchen sink isn't because you can't, it's because you rarely need such parts, and when you do you can simply buy off the shelf parts for next to nothing. A printer simply does not justify its overhead for most people. It's like having a lathe: useful if you're seriously into manufacturing or crafting, but not worth it if you want something pre-designed. There's just not much that it wouldn't be easier to just buy.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by haritha-j »

stevex wrote: post #34

I don't think that's the direction this is going to take. Replacing a mature app with an incredibly wide audience and a million use cases may or may not be possible, but what's actually happening is that people are making an app that does exactly what they want, and using it to solve their own needs. Previously you might use Excel to take raw data from various places and analyze it, create charts, reports, extract fi…

Background removal. that's the main thing i used photoshop for. Last week I noticed that there's an AI version now built into microsoft powerpoint. I have almost no use for photoshop now.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by notjustanymike »

fnwbr wrote: post #163
bradley13 wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly this. I have an acquaintence who is a wine connoisseur and collector. He has done technical project management, but does not program himself. Over the course of several months, he has produced an app that manages a database of the wines he has. It's a lot more that just a CRUD-app. In addition to maintaining the obvious data (name, year, winery, notes, etc.), it can take a photo of the label, parse it, and fi…

what about the data? is it locally hosted? if he drops his phone everything will be lost? or are servers and databases involved? if so, where are they being hosted? how did he manage those? even these sorts of stories are incredibly shallow and hard to believe for me personally.

You'd be shocked at how easy Supabase makes these things. You can describe your data needs and it'll use AI to generate the table and RLS policies. You can even go a step further and have Replit do both front and backend. I had chats with multiple PMs who have entire functioning products without understanding a lick of code. Powerful, and although scary from a security perspective, not so scary if it's a personal app.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by clearleaf »

embedding-shape wrote: post #95
PunchyHamster wrote: post #89

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I don't think many people subscribe to photoshop for just occasional image edits. It's very much a tool mostly used by professionals that do a lot of it

Back in the day when a license was expensive, then yes, you either were a professional who used it a lot, or like the rest of us poors, you used a cracked copy. Nowadays though, with relatively cheap subscriptions (on a month-to-month basis at least), where the cheapest plan is like 20EUR/month or something, even if you just work part-time as some social media "take picture of food for restaurants to post on their so…

I don't pay subs for things like photoshop. It doesn't matter if I can "afford" it. It could be one cent per year and still I just don't want stuff that's set up that way.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by esseph »

skydhash wrote: post #229
esseph wrote: post #74

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If there was a viable open source replacement for discord I would be using it today. Same goes for slack.

There’s zulip https://zulip.com/

That's a SaaS / Product.

https://zulip.com/self-hosting/

Similar to the GitLab model.

Example limitations:

> Mobile notifications without limitation for eligible communities

> Mobile notifications for up to 10 users for other organizations

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by carlosjobim »

marking-time wrote: post #259
carlosjobim wrote: post #191

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There are no downsides for the customer if the software is much more capable than what the user needs. So there's not much of a business case for offering software with less features.

The use case for less capable software is that it is cheaper. Why buy a mansion when all you need is a bedroom?

Because fully fledged software is dirt cheap already. Even Photoshop is only $20 per month. That is nothing to a professional who needs the tool. People who care about that kind of money will never pay any money at all for software, they will look for something for free.
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