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Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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Post by qsera »

echelon wrote: post #59
davemp wrote: post #3

Kind of goes to show how out of touch and insular the tech exec sphere can be. Almost everyone I interact with in reality has a deep distain for LLMs and their touted trajectory.

> Almost everyone I interact with in reality has a deep distain for LLMs and their touted trajectory. The Western media is stoking these fears. Asia is embracing AI. Japan is using it in anime. India is going wild with large and small business usage. All of my friends in India report how popular it is, and how they're using it to get work done. I don't even have to mention China. I am sick of how our media is brainwa…

India is doing what exactly?

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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Post by rowanG077 »

rdtsc wrote: post #55

> “If you’d let me make this point, please —” Schmidt said amid boos. “The point I’d like to make is choose a diversity of perspectives, including the perspective of the immigrant who has so often been the person who came to this country and made it better. America is at its best when we are the country that ambitious people want to come to. Let us not lose that.” How does that tie in? You have to like AI because of…

I think he is saying that if you are against AI you are against progress and so "America will no longer be the country that ambitious people want to come to". I don't think there was a point there about immigration being somehow equivalent to AI, that would come out of nowhere.

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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Post by throwaway173738 »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #70
ramon156 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imo there's a priority you should have for the generation below you. Just like how you clean up for your next week's self, you clean up for the next generation. Make sure you don't leave the world on fire before you dip. Two generations have failed at this, now's your chance to break the streak. But maybe I'm just a hippie, who knows.

As someone gen-z, I think that we are just the ones facing the double it and give it to the next generation problem. i do not doubt that there were people like you who saw the problems and perhaps even wanted to fix it, but I cant help but wonder where it all went wrong. also there is no guarantee for anything that gen-z wouldn't try to pass it to the next generation either. It's a ticking time bomb, Tick tock.

I think it’s messed up that we’re busy handing it off to the next generation instead of actually doing anything. We should be making things better for the younger generation not passing the buck to them.

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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Post by Mashimo »

echelon wrote: post #59
davemp wrote: post #3

Kind of goes to show how out of touch and insular the tech exec sphere can be. Almost everyone I interact with in reality has a deep distain for LLMs and their touted trajectory.

> Almost everyone I interact with in reality has a deep distain for LLMs and their touted trajectory. The Western media is stoking these fears. Asia is embracing AI. Japan is using it in anime. India is going wild with large and small business usage. All of my friends in India report how popular it is, and how they're using it to get work done. I don't even have to mention China. I am sick of how our media is brainwa…

Are you sure it's the just western media and not the bigger western society in it's totality?

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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Post by newsclues »

new_account_100 wrote: post #74
rdtsc wrote: post #55

> “If you’d let me make this point, please —” Schmidt said amid boos. “The point I’d like to make is choose a diversity of perspectives, including the perspective of the immigrant who has so often been the person who came to this country and made it better. America is at its best when we are the country that ambitious people want to come to. Let us not lose that.” How does that tie in? You have to like AI because of…

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What if they take your jobs for a fraction of your worth, and drive up the cost of living, while extracting massive subsidies from your taxes? You love the people who destroy your quality of life?

For the record, I love real diversity, I grew up in home where we have exchange students from abroad (to help pay the bills), but in Canada, the last 10 years or so has soured my opinion because my standard of living has decreased while my government has done everything to support new Canadians, and now I am close to homeless in a town where the new hotel is filled with government funded new Canadians.

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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Post by protimewaster »

ramon156 wrote: post #26
WilcoKruijer wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find this a weird comment. Isn't this the same kind of out of touch? I could write: > Kind of goes to show how out of touch and insular the Hackernews commenter sphere can be. Almost everyone I interact with in reality loves LLMs and their touted trajectory. And it would hold mostly true for me. This goes to show we should all be aware of our respective bubbles.

Imo there's a priority you should have for the generation below you. Just like how you clean up for your next week's self, you clean up for the next generation. Make sure you don't leave the world on fire before you dip. Two generations have failed at this, now's your chance to break the streak. But maybe I'm just a hippie, who knows.

I'm starting to think that the most likely solution to this problem is that one or more generations leave things in such bad shape that everyone dies. Problem solved, no future generations to be worse off than prior ones!

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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Post by lancebeet »

rdtsc wrote: post #55

> “If you’d let me make this point, please —” Schmidt said amid boos. “The point I’d like to make is choose a diversity of perspectives, including the perspective of the immigrant who has so often been the person who came to this country and made it better. America is at its best when we are the country that ambitious people want to come to. Let us not lose that.” How does that tie in? You have to like AI because of…

I think his train of thought is "young graduates generally aren't anti-immigration, so if I insinuate they're anti-immigration if they disagree with me they will be convinced by my argument". I don't think we need to read much more than that into it.

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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Post by new_account_100 »

new_account_100 wrote: post #74
rdtsc wrote: post #55

> “If you’d let me make this point, please —” Schmidt said amid boos. “The point I’d like to make is choose a diversity of perspectives, including the perspective of the immigrant who has so often been the person who came to this country and made it better. America is at its best when we are the country that ambitious people want to come to. Let us not lose that.” How does that tie in? You have to like AI because of…

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Didn't we just put millions of immigrants in concentration camps for stealing our jobs (1 job per immigrant)?

With that in mind, what should we do with the bosses who stole thousands of jobs each and shipped them to India and Poland?

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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Post by mbgerring »

echelon wrote: post #59
davemp wrote: post #3

Kind of goes to show how out of touch and insular the tech exec sphere can be. Almost everyone I interact with in reality has a deep distain for LLMs and their touted trajectory.

> Almost everyone I interact with in reality has a deep distain for LLMs and their touted trajectory. The Western media is stoking these fears. Asia is embracing AI. Japan is using it in anime. India is going wild with large and small business usage. All of my friends in India report how popular it is, and how they're using it to get work done. I don't even have to mention China. I am sick of how our media is brainwa…

The people running these companies give interviews every few months where they gleefully proclaim that AI will eliminate thousands of jobs. The people building this technology are the ones creating the hatred you’re seeing.

Re: Eric Schmidt speech about AI booed during graduation

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Post by qsera »

xt00 wrote: post #35

Tons of CEOs right now keep saying “young people need to learn how to use AI to be successful” and also “we aren’t planning to hire any new college grads due to AI”.. so which one is it.. seems everybody understands the super pro AI CEOs want to lay off nearly the entire company and run it on skeleton crew with a ton of AI and get ultra rich. While “some other” companies should totally hire lots of young people but n…

> run it on skeleton crew with a ton of AI and get ultra rich...

I don't get people who believe this. Why would an AI company provide a service that someone can sell at 10x the price, mostly unchanged? Why wouldn't the AI company sell it directly?

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