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Re: Germany goes from labour shortages to hiring freezes

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Post by dgellow »

slaw wrote: post #74
oytis wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, sorry, there is a lot of diversity of course, especially on the lower level. It's rather equality and inclusion that need improving. It's an anecdotal evidence, but while looking for a job I liked looking up employees on linkedin, then looking up the leadership on company's website. First one would always be much more diverse than the second one

You didn't notice older people are Germans and younger migrants?

Wait until you learn you can be German and not look like the Bavarian stereotypes

Re: Germany goes from labour shortages to hiring freezes

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Post by dgellow »

akie wrote: post #19
spwa4 wrote: post #6

Creating an ever-larger union makes goods cheap(er) by moving jobs out of expensive markets. Surprised?

Germany went from labour shortage to hiring freezes in like two to three years. This has nothing to do with unions, which have been on a long downward slope for decades. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1356608/trade-unions-ger... Stop watching Fox News.

I think they mean the EU

Re: Germany goes from labour shortages to hiring freezes

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Post by sam_lowry_ »

PurpleRamen wrote: post #73
NordStreamYacht wrote: post #37

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For being unreliable, it's working strangely well and stable. Far better than the fuel-based sources which fail all the time for various reasons.

I guess the parent wanted to say `intermittent`, as opposed to `baseline`.

These are the terms used throughout the industry.

Re: Germany goes from labour shortages to hiring freezes

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Post by PurpleRamen »

sam_lowry_ wrote: post #93
PurpleRamen wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For being unreliable, it's working strangely well and stable. Far better than the fuel-based sources which fail all the time for various reasons.

I guess the parent wanted to say `intermittent`, as opposed to `baseline`. These are the terms used throughout the industry.

You mean the base load? Yes, that's a common myth. European countries have no problem with their base load, even when depending on wind and solar.

Re: Germany goes from labour shortages to hiring freezes

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Post by croes »

dgellow wrote: post #90
croes wrote: post #24

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Shame on the workers who want their share from the work they did, poor shareholders, all their hard work for nothing. /s Unions in Germany have less power than in France for instance. The rights to strike are more restrictive

I really wouldn’t look at France as a system to emulate. Their economy is also going through a pretty rough decade

France is just an example of strike possibilities.

It’s ridiculous to blame unions in Germany where things like political strikes are not allowed … because a former Nazi judge said so.

Re: Germany goes from labour shortages to hiring freezes

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Post by sam_lowry_ »

PurpleRamen wrote: post #94
sam_lowry_ wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess the parent wanted to say `intermittent`, as opposed to `baseline`. These are the terms used throughout the industry.

You mean the base load? Yes, that's a common myth. European countries have no problem with their base load, even when depending on wind and solar.

The proof of the contrary is the "smart" meter in your home that reports real-time stats to the grid operator.

You just take the hard work of grid operators, ENTSO-E and everyone in-between and in the adjacent industries for granted.

Re: Germany goes from labour shortages to hiring freezes

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Post by leereeves »

ololobus wrote: post #54

The job market all over the world is ultimately changing. Wars, AI, energy crisis, etc. — it’s a combination of factors. Yet, the article is too shallow, so it doesn’t clarify much. The two examples are not really representative, “press spokesman at a small industry association” and entry-level “apprenticeship in marketing communications and a bachelor’s degree in international management”. I don’t want to say that t…

> What I’d like to get answers to is why if everyone says about shortages of nurses, doctors, teachers, plumbers and other handymen, highly qualified engineers capable of making some complex stuff like rockets; I don’t really see any policy makers pushing to make such jobs more appealing, I don’t see people around talking about moving to any of such areas even if they struggle or lose their office/corporate jobs, or talking about their kids learning to do one of them

I believe that the people in charge don't want to improve working conditions, but in fact want to increase hours, lower pay, and deregulate. So they complain about shortages (without mentioning "of people willing to accept those conditions") and push to lower standards.

And unfortunately they are able to get major media outlets to publish that message without questioning it.

(Also, there was a genuine nursing shortage for a while after Covid, because conditions were so bad a lot of people left the profession. People may still talk about that even though it has resolved now.)

Re: Germany goes from labour shortages to hiring freezes

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Post by oytis »

oytis wrote: post #63
dgellow wrote: post #57

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From your own link 30% is the widest definition possible: > As of 2024, around 17.4 million people living in Germany, or 20.9% of the population, are first-generation immigrants, while the population with a migrant background in the wider sense stood at approximately 25.2 million, accounting for 30.2% of the total population of 83.5 million Thats a very misleading statistic

"Migrant background" is really broad indeed, it takes just one parent who wasn't born with a German parent to be considered as having a "background". Also most of them are EU migrants

who wasn't born with a German passport, sorry. So in worst case one immigrant grandparent is enough

Re: Germany goes from labour shortages to hiring freezes

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Post by joe_mamba »

r_lee wrote: post #66
joe_mamba wrote: post #29

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that will not restore the job market... it'd just create an American system of struggle where you need to do doordash to make ends meet

Doing doordash is "a system of struggle"? What about working in mines or on fishing boats? What about the Europeans who collect bottles to make ends meet? How did unskilled Europeans make ends meet before doordash and government welfare existed?

Education and everything else related for the youth is free(taxpayer funded and government provided) in Europe. Whose responsibility is it to make ends meet other than your own? If you end up doing doordash after being provided all those generous opportunities in your youth, maybe some self reflection is needed.

Should we keep taxing small business entrepreneurs and higher earners more, to subsidize the lower earners so adults can sit at home instead of doing doordash, while having food delivery service jobs be done by a parallel society comprised of desperate migrants and refugees, which need to be brought it endlessly to keep this ponzi scheme going, because the locals feel like it's below them. Is this better for Europe?

Re: Germany goes from labour shortages to hiring freezes

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Post by NordStreamYacht »

xplt wrote: post #41
NordStreamYacht wrote: post #37

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Username checks out :))

I'm obsessed with that fairy tale.

Bunch of drunk dudes and dudettes blew up a deep gas line while cavorting on a yacht.

It's almost as if they're mocking our intelligence.

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