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Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

#112
I need Photoshop for an almost vanishingly small subset of all the things it is capable of, and this holds true for nearly all 'full-fledged' software that I use. So what may not be surfacing, in the absence of vibe-coded Photoshops, is the growing local script collections of many users.

Since I have had AI to knock up Python scripts and workflows incorporating local ImageMagick and FFMPEG, I have devolved a lot of tedious Photoshop work to scripts and routines of some kind. Likewise with text and data manipulation that I might have turned to software for before.

I don't have the slightest urge to incorporate this ad hoc collection of scripts into a central program, and I certainly don't intend to share them in any way, considering the growing hostility to sharing vibe-code.

So this particular iceberg may be 99% underwater.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

#113

can all of you say that competitor to photoshop made by AI native teams is impossible in 10 years?

I think AI will do, like, 90% of them in 10 years. With the last 10% takes much longer (15? 20?).

I am upset with the fact that we are accumulating code debit faster than ever. In the most optimistic view, we could pay off those debit in around 10+ years (assume somebody care pay the money to buy token to clean up those).

That meant we need to suffer 10+ years of low quality code and software.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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post #92

I don't think most of the commenter so far are getting the real meaning of this post. The post author is calling out the "Where are the vibecoded Photoshops?" folks for empty accusations. The "accusers" in their post are THE people asking that question, not the AI users. See this paragraph: > There are no vibecoded Photoshops because vibecoding does not do what the rhetoric claims it does. The accusation itself is th…

Frankly I do not understand what argument is being made

People are making vibe accusations.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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post #88
post #17

People are not upset because "Level 1" was taken away from them. For artists and creatives, _all levels_ have been taken away. And for most, their very basic needs (i.e. income) are being taken away. And all that, just so we can get past "level 1"? Not even "level 4"? What kind of trade off is that?? We're supposed to be engineers. We spend days/weeks discussing how a table should be designed so it doesn't bite us in…

If you’re an artist and you feel like your audience was stolen by AI slop, you didn’t have a real audience and you aren’t a real artist. Go suffer until something good happens in your fingers.

I agree with you, but at the same time I went to university to study music production when Napster just came out. That decimated the music industry forever and I dropped out because I realised I'd made a bad move.

I can totally see how ai could do the same thing to all sorts of art industries that have not had their Napster moment yet.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

#116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's see at the end of the year how that went with the supposedly disappointing actual output and no layoffs.

Sure, let’s see. So far there is nothing to justify the hype, and there is a lot of money and hype around this, and a lot of fervent true believers.

> People on here talk like it was some belief or suggest I am somehow profiting from "hyping" AI.

Not really, the "people on here" rather consider that Anthropic and co. are profiting from you by making you think it's better to give them money to develop your app rather than do it yourself or hire a developer. The hype is there to steer you towards AI.

20 hours a week must be quite expensive in tokens.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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post #92

I don't think most of the commenter so far are getting the real meaning of this post. The post author is calling out the "Where are the vibecoded Photoshops?" folks for empty accusations. The "accusers" in their post are THE people asking that question, not the AI users. See this paragraph: > There are no vibecoded Photoshops because vibecoding does not do what the rhetoric claims it does. The accusation itself is th…

Frankly I do not understand what argument is being made

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Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

#118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am working like 20 hours a week on my new iOS app with Codex. People on here talk like it was some belief or suggest I am somehow profiting from "hyping" AI. Is it so hard to believe that agentic coding now works? Engineers are taking it up left and right. Edit with reply: I can't, because the app is still in the works. Also my HN account is again rate limited and I won't be able to post more comments. Edit number…

Can you share a link to your app?

I recently had a coworker open my eyes to why vibe coding, or AI-assisted coding is so popular. He likened it to a slot machine, where pulling the slot's arm is like asking an LLM to code something. You get crap most of the time, but when it works, it's like getting a payout. That dopamine hit keeps them pulling, hoping for another hit, and they then believe it's a better way to develop software.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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post #92

I don't think most of the commenter so far are getting the real meaning of this post. The post author is calling out the "Where are the vibecoded Photoshops?" folks for empty accusations. The "accusers" in their post are THE people asking that question, not the AI users. See this paragraph: > There are no vibecoded Photoshops because vibecoding does not do what the rhetoric claims it does. The accusation itself is th…

Frankly I do not understand what argument is being made

This is what usually happens with LLM assisted writing. Looking at other posts in author blog, they are as well likely written with help and guidance of LLM bot, and also bring feeling of incoherence when read. I'd say this style predates LLM by millenia so it is not really invented by bots. To me it resembles the most the older religious texts and especially oral preaching. Some of attractors in current frontier models are likely coming from religious areas of knowledge, since this apocalyptic incoherence is found in so many texts today.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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post #80

> There are levels in this work. Level 1 is the typing. Syntax, semicolons, the years memorizing pointer arithmetic and which header file the function lives in. Level 2 is the verifying. The harness. The test suite. The reflex of rejecting the ninety attempts that almost work and shipping the one that does. Level 3 is the deciding. What to build at all. Which architecture survives contact with the real world. (...) >…

Agreed. Very firmly in level 2, and going well into level 3 too.

For example, I've had quite a few situations when I asked Claude Code to do some manual work for me, assuming it would do manual edits across several files, but it instead decided to write a script, and even a small test suite for it. It's a small encroachment so far, but I don't see any limitation for it gradually taking on actual product decisions.

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