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Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by tim-projects »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #75

IDK, but I have three or four vibe-coded 0.1%-Photoshops already - small utility apps, all self-contained, client-side, static, zero build-step browser tools, each of them solving a very particular problem for me. Things like, drop an image, get a printable label sheet that force-overrides all margin and scaling settings (recent upgrade to a tool I had that did that with plaintext address data), or metadata-preservin…

It's almost like people are finding out what scripting is because ai can do it for them.

This isn't new most businesses are run on scripts that process data. The only difference now is that more people can write them instead of paying for an app.

So the narrative here is wrong. Because vibe coding an app is overkill, in the same way that paying through the nose for a giant app that you only use one basic feature set of is.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by [deleted] »

sieiw wrote: post #64
user34283 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is pretty much true. Before Codex with GPT 5.4 and 5.5 I was working on a single feature only, no parallel conversations, and a ton of permission prompts would make it impossible for the agent to even work for five minutes on its own. Times have changed.

People like you write a whole lot. Talk about the numbers. Cost reduction and revenue generation. Anything else irrelevant - nobody cares. The world is about making money and moving things forward.

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Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by christkv »

bayindirh wrote: post #40
christkv wrote: post #13

Next twelve months will be interesting in software quality.

The preliminary research have found a "downward pressure" in software quality, meaning AI assisted coding is already breaking things. I expect small firms to abandon updates altogether, re-writing the core parts of their code with prompts at every "update".

It's fascinating to be down voted for this lol

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by eooekwe »

Tepix wrote: post #93
sinaatalay wrote: post #28

If Photoshop can be vibe coded in a couple of weeks, that's superintelligence. I think of "tokens" as units of intelligence spent on a problem. Producing software like Photoshop, Linux, or Excel literally cost billions of tokens (human intelligence back then, and now both human and artificial intelligence combined). A lot of deep intellectual problems were solved along the way, and the token cost of solving them accu…

I expect a coding model being able to clone apps like Photoshop in the next two years. But creating an app like that from scratch without a paragon (which is what Adobe did with Photoshop) is a lot harder.

That actually doesn’t need to happen.

A proxy for it would be we see a huge wave of lay offs.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by FailMore »

anticorporate wrote: post #91

That's a bit like asking "Where are the vibecoded AWSs?" or "Where are the vibe coded Office 365s?" Can I vibe code an image editor? Sure! I have, actually, just more as a curiosity. I got as far as a simple Canva replacement, and if that's what you need, maybe the question isn't can you vibe code Photoshop but rather can you vibe code Canva. Photoshop is part of a gigantic ecosystem of tools, formats, and plugins th…

I've been experimenting with a fairly vibecoded Office 365..., but rooted in the world of vibe (an advanced Markdown reader which can do complex things like render charts and mermaid diagrams, see: https://sdocs.dev, https://sdocs.dev/#sec=charts, https://sdocs.dev/#sec=diagrams). Slides coming soon too... But this is very much a subsection of the full Office suite.

(Also discussed on HN here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47777633)

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by traceroute66 »

There will never be a vibecoded Photoshop.

For Photoshop there are already "competitors", such as Canva or GIMP or countless others. But adoption has been limited.

Why ?

Because of the tightknit Adobe integration. If I create something in Photoshop, I can pull it in natively into any other programme in the Adobe suite ... e.g. InDesign (desktop publishing), Indesign (vector illutration), Premiere (non-linear video editing) or After Effects (motion graphics).

Not only can I pull it in natively, but in most cases I benefit from Adobe Dynamic Linking. Which means if I go back and mess with the Phtoshop file, it is automagically updated in all my child projects elsewhere.

Do not underestimate the sheer boost to the workflow and time savings that that provides !

Building on the above, if I'm recruiting designers, there is a very high chance they've spent the last 20 years using Photoshop. Am I going to waste my time and theirs forcing them to learn GIMP or whatever ? No. I will just get them an Adobe license.

Now let's hypothesize that my theoretical designer that I just employed has produced a product in InDesign that we're sending off to the printers....

If you want to get the best out of your printer during the pre-flight process, then you're absolutely want to be sending them a PDF file that came out of the Adobe toolset. Why ? Because your printer can send you Adobe-ready preflight-validation config files and because your printer can help you with issues. Not using Adobe ? Prepare for your printer to say "on your own chum".

Adobe is not perfect, but they command the market dominance they do for very good reason.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by plaidfuji »

If I’m understanding this correctly, it starts by raising this question, then argues that it’s kind of a cheap and meaningless punch-down.

I’m not sure I completely agree.. I think these types of questions are more a response to the level of hype around LLMs and less about knocking people down. You see a lot of people excited about the personal productivity app they vibe-coded (which IMO is totally legit - it’s cool that run-of-the-mill apps that used to require a professional developer are now available more on demand), and yet it’s hard to think of a new piece of high-impact traditional software that has come out since the release of ChatGPT.

But it’s also hard to think of the most recent piece of important traditional software that came out… at all. I couldn’t even name the most recent Photoshop-like release. Ableton / Fruityloops? Tableau? Big pro-sumer apps kind of plateaued in the early 00s.

LLMs have made it easier to develop software, but at the same time they’ve also raised the bar of what’s worth writing software to do. Many things that used to be apps are now just prompts. Maybe ChatGPT was the next Photoshop - it turned writing basic apps from a profession into a hobby.

Anyway. Good post - definitely not written by an LLM, and that’s a good thing.

Re: Where Are the Vibecoded Photoshops?

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Post by GistNoesis »

The vibecoded OS builder (by yours truly) : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48167846

Didn't even gather a single vote, to be able to even show up in the show hn category (Like my 3 other AI projects shared here recently).

Have a look at the https://news.ycombinator.com/shownew category when logged in where new products first appear, it's just an ocean of flagged and show dead.

Agents (even fully local like in my case), exhibit fun behavior and are capable or designing their own fonts from scratch.

The difference between slop and non-slop, is just how long you run the agent loop, and how much you spend on quality control.

Then it's all about the economics game, on how much you should spend between marketing and artefact creation to have a money generating loop by pushing the slop through your users throat.

There is just so much content being produced, that it disperse the effort and potential customers, raising the barrier to reach this self-sustaining state required for growth and quality. In the end, existing players will just run the same agent loop from their dominant position and keep their advantage.

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