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Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And that's also the reason why they introduced "age verification". It's not age verification, they couldn't care less about children. Age verification is just mass surveillance under a fake name.

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Yeah except that Ofcom(the UK communications regulator) already said that the main goal of the Online Safety Act isn't about protecting children, it's about "controlling online discourse". They dropped that pretense literally one day after the act got passed.

>>I am getting very intolerant of these conspiratorial comments

Weird thing to brag about, but sure.

Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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This is a fairly difficult problem. I think the internet should be for adults only, like many other things. But we've fucked up by giving children internet access and it's going to be hard to undo it. I think rather than fighting these measures we need to work on alternatives because keeping children off the internet is a good idea, we just need to implement it in a good way. What about just banning phones for childr…

Or we could realize that there are already 2 generations that grew while having access to the internet and turned out perfectly fine?

Who knows?

Sexualization of teens is a thing. I personally blame social media together with showbusiness. But kids had access to the internet at the same time.

And the internet was slightly different than it's now. It had much more sharp edges that we learned how to live with.

But it also was much less predatory. World's smartest psychologists and programmers didn't work 80 hour weeks for small fortunes to make it as much addictive as possible.. if it was only that. It's also as triggering and depressing as possible, because distressed and depressed people are engaging more and can't stop.

What I mean to say is that you can't really draw an equal sign between internet we grew up with and the one we give (or choose to limit) to our children.

I don't mean we should block them, just that it's not the same.

Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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Something I learned just recently—the Australian government (surprisingly!) actually recommends VPN usage, they even provide a bit of a guide and how to; https://beconnected.esafety.gov.au/topic-library/advanced-on...

That’s funny, I wonder if they might remove it since it is a common way for people to circumvent the ID requirement laws for certain sites.

Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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Something I learned just recently—the Australian government (surprisingly!) actually recommends VPN usage, they even provide a bit of a guide and how to; https://beconnected.esafety.gov.au/topic-library/advanced-on...

The very same office of the eSafety commissioner that is enforcing age verification for social media.

https://www.esafety.gov.au/newsroom/blogs/social-media-minim...

Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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> VPNs are essential privacy tools Does Mozilla not understand that this is the exact reason why the UK wants to forbid them?

And that's also the reason why they introduced "age verification". It's not age verification, they couldn't care less about children. Age verification is just mass surveillance under a fake name.

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Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Yeah except that Ofcom(the UK communications regulator) already said that the main goal of the Online Safety Act isn't about protecting children, it's about "controlling online discourse". They dropped that pretense literally one day after the act got passed. >>I am getting very intolerant of these conspiratorial comments Weird thing to brag about, but sure.

Would you mind linking to where you got that "controlling online discourse" quote. I am not able to find anything like that.

Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Yeah except that Ofcom(the UK communications regulator) already said that the main goal of the Online Safety Act isn't about protecting children, it's about "controlling online discourse". They dropped that pretense literally one day after the act got passed. >>I am getting very intolerant of these conspiratorial comments Weird thing to brag about, but sure.

Source, please?
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