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OpenAI and Government of Malta partner to roll out ChatGPT Plus to all citizens

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Re: OpenAI and Government of Malta partner to roll out ChatGPT Plus to all citizens

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Post by keerthiko »

EGreg wrote: post #100
zamadatix wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remember, if the government says it's free it almost certainly means the people are actually paying for it.

Yes and even if you are paying, you’re still the product! That’s whats happens in two sided markets. Everyone’s the product. The original adage of “if you’re not paying, you’re the product” doesn’t necessarily rule out the converse. The fact that the grandfather comment made a freudian slip makes it funnier.

> The original adage of “if you’re not paying, you’re the product” doesn’t necessarily rule out the converse.

I believe the logical term "converse" means swapping the conclusion and the condition in a logical statement, ie converse(if A then B) = if B then A

So here the converse would be "if you're the product, you're not paying". Which doesn't exactly make sense to me as a claim to make here. Did you just mean to reinforce your first sentence? In which case, I think you mean "the inverse", not the converse. However, I have only used the word converse in a "formal logic" scope (proofs) so I'm not sure if it has a more flexible meaning in informal language use.

Re: OpenAI and Government of Malta partner to roll out ChatGPT Plus to all citizens

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Post by iririririr »

lucaspiller wrote: post #118
627467 wrote: post #56

Openai seems to be fast forwarding the original Facebook playbook: lobbying for regulatory moat and now OpenAI zero[0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook_Zero

I run some numbers, how much would it cost to build MaltaGPT - sovereign hosted ChatGPT. Malta has a population of 500k. Let's assume 100k people use MaltaGPT daily, and they send an average of 10 messages per day, so roughly 1M messages per day. That averages 694 per minute, but at peak could be 3-5x that, so let's say 3000 per minute. Usage will of course vary by day of week and time of day (they could partner with…

showed the same reasoning to a fortune500 before moving to cloud (mind you, we already had the data centers paid for). didn't matter, went full on aws because we got a 40% discount on first year. something along the way of the bad decision triggered some exec bonus. so along the whole company went.

Re: OpenAI and Government of Malta partner to roll out ChatGPT Plus to all citizens

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Post by tczMUFlmoNk »

keerthiko wrote: post #121
EGreg wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes and even if you are paying, you’re still the product! That’s whats happens in two sided markets. Everyone’s the product. The original adage of “if you’re not paying, you’re the product” doesn’t necessarily rule out the converse. The fact that the grandfather comment made a freudian slip makes it funnier.

> The original adage of “if you’re not paying, you’re the product” doesn’t necessarily rule out the converse. I believe the logical term "converse" means swapping the conclusion and the condition in a logical statement, ie converse(if A then B) = if B then A So here the converse would be "if you're the product, you're not paying". Which doesn't exactly make sense to me as a claim to make here. Did you just mean to re…

The converse and inverse are logically equivalent by contraposition, so it doesn't really matter which one you use. If you think through it, you can see that "if you're the product, you're not paying" is equivalent to "if you're paying, you're not the product".

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Post by altmanaltman »

foxfired wrote: post #110

We had a mandatory ChatGPT training course at work. You had to sign up in limited space classes. This is a large company, needless to say it was chaos to get a significant number of people to participate. I got a spot. We were shown how to copy and paste data from excel and other data sources into the chat interface. We had sample data to work with, there was always someone in class who would say "mine didn't work."…

The fact they have to resort to these tactics does not bide well for the company that wants to create AGI or go bust.

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Post by tomwojcik »

zitterbewegung wrote: post #5

Would be interesting long term if this sways public opinion about data centers in Malta. I do support though AI literacy in general and this is a good step. Would wonder about the deal in how much this is actually costing Malta if at all.

Malta makes money with igaming and money laundering. There's literally no other businesses there, other than basic necessities, and even these barely work. It's only focused on entertainment.

They import food and water. Malta is very hot during the summer. There's AC unit everywhere and it's a default cooling unit as well, as there's no "European winter" there. Everyone collects rain water and stores it on the roof.

They are one tsunami away from being decimated.

There's one company renting servers and it's full of online casinos, just so the companies meet the regulatory requirement.

Malta is the worst place on earth to have a data center I can think of.

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Post by Rohunyyy »

emsign wrote: post #104
sharpshadow wrote: post #86

It’s a voluntary two hour online AI course with 1 year ChatGPT premium reward. Getting AI basics to the people with playground.

Getting free data from every Maltese citizen rather.

Data if you pay. Data if it is free. At this point is there any software that is used by the general public that isn't tracking you ?

Re: OpenAI and Government of Malta partner to roll out ChatGPT Plus to all citizens

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Post by [deleted] »

foxfired wrote: post #110

We had a mandatory ChatGPT training course at work. You had to sign up in limited space classes. This is a large company, needless to say it was chaos to get a significant number of people to participate. I got a spot. We were shown how to copy and paste data from excel and other data sources into the chat interface. We had sample data to work with, there was always someone in class who would say "mine didn't work."…

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Re: OpenAI and Government of Malta partner to roll out ChatGPT Plus to all citizens

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Post by GCUMstlyHarmls »

altmanaltman wrote: post #124
foxfired wrote: post #110

We had a mandatory ChatGPT training course at work. You had to sign up in limited space classes. This is a large company, needless to say it was chaos to get a significant number of people to participate. I got a spot. We were shown how to copy and paste data from excel and other data sources into the chat interface. We had sample data to work with, there was always someone in class who would say "mine didn't work."…

The fact they have to resort to these tactics does not bide well for the company that wants to create AGI or go bust.

Oh I don't know, it seems like a good step forward towards regulatory capture. First partner, then certify, then require the certification. A limited regional beta, like launching your app in New Zealand first.

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Post by vasco »

tomwojcik wrote: post #125
zitterbewegung wrote: post #5

Would be interesting long term if this sways public opinion about data centers in Malta. I do support though AI literacy in general and this is a good step. Would wonder about the deal in how much this is actually costing Malta if at all.

Malta makes money with igaming and money laundering. There's literally no other businesses there, other than basic necessities, and even these barely work. It's only focused on entertainment. They import food and water. Malta is very hot during the summer. There's AC unit everywhere and it's a default cooling unit as well, as there's no "European winter" there. Everyone collects rain water and stores it on the roof.…

You forgot tourism which is their largest money maker.
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