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OpenAI and Government of Malta partner to roll out ChatGPT Plus to all citizens

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Re: OpenAI and Government of Malta partner to roll out ChatGPT Plus to all citizens

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The subsidies deployed by the industry are so massive I don't even know if consumers need public assistance here. It's kinda like the gov was subsidizing web hosting or basic banking. The price for a regular consumer already barely hovers above zero. Just look at this list of services included in Google's AI Pro subscription[1]. Google took everything it could think any consumer might need and bundled for $20/mo. The…

I had a free 3 month trial I just terminated. I deemed it too expensive.

Re: OpenAI and Government of Malta partner to roll out ChatGPT Plus to all citizens

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Malta is the size of a small city, I don't think national security or investing into home grown companies comes into play here.

Malta is part of the EU. I am personally very surprised about this partnership, just in the context of data security, privacy and the GDPR. How is the privacy of these EU citizens protected when all their prompts and data is sent to OpenAI? How do these EU citizens submit a request for all their personal data to be deleted from OpenAI records, a right they have under the GDPR with a compliant data processor?

ChatGPT is already available to users in the EU. It already has an EU-aligned terms of service. Not that I'd trust them, because the GDPR has been borderline useless in reality, but there's nothing particularly legally interesting about this offering.

> How do these EU citizens submit a request for all their personal data to be deleted from OpenAI records

Probably by sending an e-mail to a designated address, like most services that operate in the EU, but you can read their TOS if you'd like to be sure.

Re: OpenAI and Government of Malta partner to roll out ChatGPT Plus to all citizens

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The subsidies deployed by the industry are so massive I don't even know if consumers need public assistance here. It's kinda like the gov was subsidizing web hosting or basic banking. The price for a regular consumer already barely hovers above zero. Just look at this list of services included in Google's AI Pro subscription[1]. Google took everything it could think any consumer might need and bundled for $20/mo. The…

It's a ploy to drive adoption. Once it's considered essential they can turn the screws in massive contracts with governments, big enterprises, universities, and public school systems. Probably some genuine competition on price, but the equilibrium price is probably below cost and not sustainable.

Re: OpenAI and Government of Malta partner to roll out ChatGPT Plus to all citizens

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post #7

The subsidies deployed by the industry are so massive I don't even know if consumers need public assistance here. It's kinda like the gov was subsidizing web hosting or basic banking. The price for a regular consumer already barely hovers above zero. Just look at this list of services included in Google's AI Pro subscription[1]. Google took everything it could think any consumer might need and bundled for $20/mo. The…

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Re: OpenAI and Government of Malta partner to roll out ChatGPT Plus to all citizens

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Malta is part of the EU. I am personally very surprised about this partnership, just in the context of data security, privacy and the GDPR. How is the privacy of these EU citizens protected when all their prompts and data is sent to OpenAI? How do these EU citizens submit a request for all their personal data to be deleted from OpenAI records, a right they have under the GDPR with a compliant data processor?

ChatGPT is already available to users in the EU. It already has an EU-aligned terms of service. Not that I'd trust them, because the GDPR has been borderline useless in reality, but there's nothing particularly legally interesting about this offering. > How do these EU citizens submit a request for all their personal data to be deleted from OpenAI records Probably by sending an e-mail to a designated address, like mo…

> but there's nothing particularly legally interesting about this offering.

Care to elaborate or we have become completely apathetic to any display of sleaze?

Re: OpenAI and Government of Malta partner to roll out ChatGPT Plus to all citizens

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Facts for context: Malta has a population of only 550k. Everyone in Malta could already, before this deal/plan, and even without it now, use ChatGPT (or any other LLM model/service, whether free or premium.)

Citation needed. I haven't heard of this. I'm Maltese so feel free to be as detailed as needed.

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Re: OpenAI and Government of Malta partner to roll out ChatGPT Plus to all citizens

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Citation needed. I haven't heard of this. I'm Maltese so feel free to be as detailed as needed.

They are saying that the product is already available then implying a government deal on behalf of all citizens doesn't matter because the product is already available.

Maltese population are historically price sensitive. €20 a month isn't something you easily justify especially with recent cost of living increases.

So the fact that you get it free after doing some basic due diligence is actually a big deal in the local context.

Re: OpenAI and Government of Malta partner to roll out ChatGPT Plus to all citizens

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>I’m personally not a fan of OpenAI always referring to their model as “providing intelligence as a utility.” Sounds very condescending, are you saying this isn’t something we already have? We do and we don't. If you would go out there and talk to a random person about elliptic curves and matrix multiplications and whether you hit a performance ceiling in a specific 2x2 multiplication thingy with Karatsuba and wnaf,…

Is a dictionary intelligent?

Does the prayer by a kafir not knowing the language in which the prayer is recited get forgiveness?

I mean, what's the point of this question even. The thing is either useful or fun or it's not. I personally think the whole AI is the work of devil tempting us, but some people would say that about pork sausages and Paulaner and I like my pork sausages with Paulaner.

Re: OpenAI and Government of Malta partner to roll out ChatGPT Plus to all citizens

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ChatGPT is already available to users in the EU. It already has an EU-aligned terms of service. Not that I'd trust them, because the GDPR has been borderline useless in reality, but there's nothing particularly legally interesting about this offering. > How do these EU citizens submit a request for all their personal data to be deleted from OpenAI records Probably by sending an e-mail to a designated address, like mo…

> but there's nothing particularly legally interesting about this offering. Care to elaborate or we have become completely apathetic to any display of sleaze?

I mean, it's just a literal non-event legally. I'm repeating myself here, but OpenAI already operates in the EU. EU users can already use ChatGPT, with some assurances about adhering to GDPR. Offering the ad-free tier to a subset of EU users for free, who could already use the tier with ads for free, doesn't change anything legally in regards to data processing.

If you want my commentary on the political context, obviously I think it's not very intelligent for nations to be trusting a US corporation with all of their citizens' data. I think the most impactful use of LLMs is going to be their usage as surveillance and propaganda tools, so this is probably not a prudent decision. But legally, as pertains to GDPR, this is not different from the status quo in any way.

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