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Re: The Emacsification of Software

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Post by ozim »

dang wrote: post #55

This is so exactly right and I've been saying it to whoever will put up with me...(and now am embarrassed I have no link to show for it. oh well, shame is good for writing. envy too!) Software production is now so easy that everything is a .emacs file (pronounced "dot emacs" btw): meaning, each individual has their own entirely personal, endlessly customizable software cocoon. As tptacek says in the OP, it's "easier…

I have vibe coded 3 applications I never had time to code but always wanted. Now it is different in a way where now I don’t have time to use those apps.

That’s a joke. But it tells something about consumption problem.

Other thing is that a lot of software is useful only if lots of people use it over long periods of time. If every corporate employee vibe codes his thing then maybe it is better if they stick with Excel.

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Post by xigoi »

Joker_vD wrote: post #237
Antibabelic wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is you actually look at the Lisp ecosystem as it exists today (even just Emacs by itself) you'll quickly realize that none of this is true in practice. Other people have pointed this out.[0] [0] https://applied-langua.ge/posts/lisp-curse-redemption-arc.ht...

And if then you compare it to e.g. Python (or JS) ecosystem, well. It's all very relative, isn't it?

Python and JS have more libraries because they are more popular, not because their users are somehow more inclined to collaborate.

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Post by solarity_studio »

Great article, and super cool app. You've inspired my to build a side project I've been toying with for a while.

My own Obsidian.

Obsidian is great, BUT I want some specific features + stuff to make my own. I already have the .md files on my personal server and I already have local LLMs that perform actions on them for sorting, tagging etc. I already build custom web apps to view these markdown files (like my own janky database). Obsidian as the main client for editing them is fine, but I really want to make my own custom to address a few specific needs.

AND now? I'm going to fork your app + customize it to my needs (if you're okay with this of course). I'm excited about this, so thanks a lot for pushing me to take the plunge!

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Post by maximilianburke »

tptacek wrote: post #257
maximilianburke wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would be amazing now would be a way to deploy my own Claude-built utility applications to my phone without having to go through the effort of securing a Mac developer account and going through that whole rigamarole.

Have you tried?

To be honest, I haven't! I think I'm a bit gun shy from having managed mobile build infrastructure in the past and so haven't really had the urge to do anything involving it...

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Post by a96 »

ElevenLathe wrote: post #5
empath75 wrote: post #3

I love this and I have a handful of tools like this that I built for myself (I had claude write me a TUI crossplane kcl function renderer, for example -- something whose total addressable audience in the world is probably 20 people). "Content creation for an audience of one" is really the revolutionary change that is happening right now because of AI. Disposable apps, disposable books, disposable movies, disposable m…

I'm with you on purpose-built disposable tools, but who wants to read a disposable book, or watch a disposable movie?

People who like jazz?

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Post by zrail »

hyperpallium2 wrote: post #282

What does clocks mean here? A new usage? “Emacsification” clocks that everything now works this way, not just baroque text editors.

It's not a new usage by any means. Like almost all slang it originated with Black drag and LGBT+ subcultures and only semi-recently (within the last 10-15 years maybe?) broke containment in the US.

As a verb, "to clock" means something like "to notice" or maybe in this case "to highlight, with specificity".

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Post by zephen »

palata wrote: post #255
toraway wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, as someone who has developed an ever growing suite of bespoke tools for my personal workflows using Codex/Gemini CLI over the last year, something I don’t see mentioned as often is the “mental overhead” of self-designed apps. Even if the coding process itself is “effortless” and the agent just churns away to implement whatever I ask for on a dime, it can become exhausting thinking through all my needs/wants, tr…

Yeah I agree with the feeling. And actually more than "building your own" because "it's faster than installing", "Emacsification" probably also works for "using an open source project and quickly patching it just for your needs". > could have been directed to an OSS project My feeling is that it is not exactly a risk. People who are keen on contributing to open source will do it even with AI, and people who are not w…

> People who are keen on contributing to open source will do it even with AI, and people who are not wouldn't do it anyway.

People are not a monolith and, for example, you have zero fucking clue about my motivations.

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