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Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by weinzierl »

maxbond wrote: post #37
woeirua wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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More likely people thought GP was missing the point; "MTTR-optimized YOLO deployment" only succeeds against recoverable errors and acceptable periods of downtime against errors that are detected quickly. You could have a bug silently corrupting data for months, and that data may only be used by 1 critical process that runs once every quarter. So you could introduce a timebomb that can't be gracefully recovered from (…

I don't think I missed the point, that is why I said I agree with the general point (and with what you said in your comment).

What I wanted to say is that the particular people that think "its fine to ship bugs because the agents will fix them so quickly and at a scale humans can't do!" are not the best argument for it.

But I won't die on this hill, maybe I'm just reading the sentence differently then others.

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by fipar »

DCKP wrote: post #21
miek wrote: post #18

My very large employer has always been glacially slow on modernization and tech adoption. It may now, oddly enough, become a competitive advantage.

Literally the plot of Battlestar Galactica! Life imitates art indeed...

Or Mr Krabs' fear of robot overloads keeping technology at bay in the Krusty Krab!

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by nradov »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #128
uuyy wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI janitors

It's kind of like producing code is becoming more like farming. We didn't create the dna we rely on to produce food and lumber, we just set up the conditions and hope the process produces something we want instead of deleting all the bannannas. Farming is a fine an honorable and valuable function for society, but I have no interest in being a farmer. I build things, I don't plant seeds and pray to the gods and hope t…

Prayers are for weather. Pretty much all farmed plant, animal, and fungus species have been selectively bred or genetically modified. Farmers know what's going to grow.

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by kuschku »

alexnewman wrote: post #52
Barrin92 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes, I was never so happy to work in Germany. People used to joke about the proverbial fax machine still being a thing but I've never been so glad to work in a culture where this mania doesn't exist. Reading HN is like entering Alice's Wonderland of token maxxers and AI psychotics. Genuinely don't know a single person here who is forced to work like this.

Ah so it's like 2000 again. Germany will go even farther behind it seems

Germany is standing at the abyss. America is one step ahead.

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by ramoz »

zmmmmm wrote: post #113

I think AI rescue consulting is going to be come a significant mode of high value consulting, similar to specialists who come in to try and deal with a security breach or do data recovery. Purely AI written systems will scale to a point of complexity that no human can ever understand and the defect close rate will taper down and the token burn per defect rate scale up and eventually AI changes will cause on average m…

A non-technical friend of mine has just won some hospital contracts after vibecoding w/ Claude an inventory management solution for them. They gave him access to IT dept servers and he called me extremely lost on how to deploy (cant connect Claude to them) and also frustrated because the app has some sort of interesting data/state issues.

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by sph »

mvanbaak wrote: post #122
sph wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> When [...] all outputs are formally verified based on exquisite architectures and standards and we all live in a green utopia of flying cars and peace upon the world.

if all the resources spent in useless wars were poured into working towards this goal, we would be there for some time already

Sure, but we should probably plan for what’s actually going to happen

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by aaron_m04 »

orev wrote: post #129
zmmmmm wrote: post #113

I think AI rescue consulting is going to be come a significant mode of high value consulting, similar to specialists who come in to try and deal with a security breach or do data recovery. Purely AI written systems will scale to a point of complexity that no human can ever understand and the defect close rate will taper down and the token burn per defect rate scale up and eventually AI changes will cause on average m…

As the models keep improving, wouldn’t you be able to task a newer AI to “clean up this mess”?

How could anyone answer that with any level of certainty?

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by maxbond »

weinzierl wrote: post #131
maxbond wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More likely people thought GP was missing the point; "MTTR-optimized YOLO deployment" only succeeds against recoverable errors and acceptable periods of downtime against errors that are detected quickly. You could have a bug silently corrupting data for months, and that data may only be used by 1 critical process that runs once every quarter. So you could introduce a timebomb that can't be gracefully recovered from (…

I don't think I missed the point, that is why I said I agree with the general point (and with what you said in your comment). What I wanted to say is that the particular people that think "its fine to ship bugs because the agents will fix them so quickly and at a scale humans can't do!" are not the best argument for it. But I won't die on this hill, maybe I'm just reading the sentence differently then others.

I think there is an implication in context that the people being discussed aren't being reasonable (that the claim is employed as a rationalization), but I agree with your take. I should've said, "the downvotes were more likely because GP was perceived as missing the point". (I didn't downvote your comment fwiw.)

Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis

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Post by singlow »

blipvert wrote: post #126
zmmmmm wrote: post #113

I think AI rescue consulting is going to be come a significant mode of high value consulting, similar to specialists who come in to try and deal with a security breach or do data recovery. Purely AI written systems will scale to a point of complexity that no human can ever understand and the defect close rate will taper down and the token burn per defect rate scale up and eventually AI changes will cause on average m…

Reminds me of the quote in the original Westworld movie: “ These are highly complicated pieces of equipment… almost as complicated as living organisms. In some cases, they’ve been designed by other computers. We don’t know exactly how they work.” Now how did that work out ;-)

However Michael Crichton imagined it would.
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