Weird. I like how hacker news is all text and read it daily.
But I could see my eyes getting bored after a while on tldr. I much prefer this layout http://www.rawsignal.com/
Optimized for fast consumption or just dicking around.
TL;DR — Faster News
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#62I don't want to step on these guys' PR, but I do have a similar personal project for anybody who is interested, http://newspaper23.com Initially it's just an aggregator that presents commentary in plain text. I plan on adding a summarizer one day. For a personal project, I've been using it daily for over a year, so I know I find a lot of value in this type of thing. As sites try to get more sticky, the signal-to-nois…
Once again, not to step on TL;DR, but since most commenting here are saying that curation is not scalable or sustainable, I wanted to present it in this way: Phase 1: The MVP of a news aggregator should be a curated/editorial like traditional media/magazines, etc [1] Phase 2: The second stage should be to have submissions from your readers (on content that interests them). Phase 3: The next would be to have a voting…
hey there, did you know that tldr.io now offers an extension that allows you to read tldrs without leaving the HN frontpage? https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tldr/ohmamcbkcmfal...
full disclosure: i'm one of the cofounders
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#63I don't want to step on these guys' PR, but I do have a similar personal project for anybody who is interested, http://newspaper23.com Initially it's just an aggregator that presents commentary in plain text. I plan on adding a summarizer one day. For a personal project, I've been using it daily for over a year, so I know I find a lot of value in this type of thing. As sites try to get more sticky, the signal-to-nois…
I do want to step on their PR. This is like looking at an RSS feed. Try something like TLDRPlugin.com that actually summarizes content, and works with any web page, not just the few RSS feeds that some guy decided to include.
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#64You probably already know that, but your "sponsors" page is completely broken on my system, and it blames adblock.
Page:
http://buysellads.com/buy/detail/158594?utm_source=shorturl&...
Error message:
Does BuySellAds look broken? Disable your ad blocker, their haphazard default filters sometimes break our site.
I don't care enough about you(yet) to disable adblock. I don't even know what "sponsor" means in context of your site. I was just clicking around.
Also, you probably need it for tracking, but I don't like clicking on http://toolong-didntread.com/sponsorship and being redirected to http://buysellads.com/buy/detail/158594?utm_source=shorturl&...
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#65Seems like there are a lot of people trying to tackle this problem at the moment. We are using a different route with our tl;dr Chrome extension for Hacker News: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tldr/ohmamcbkcmfal...
I like https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tldr/giepilabiomhl... better. It doesn't make you leave a website to get the summary and even works with your email, and facebook.
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#66Effective news consumption has been a huge problem since Internet got exponentially publishing disease. Unfortunately today writing for some writers and journalists is a matter of mass producing text not informing people.
I don’t think today’s technology can auto-summarize news for us properly. The approach taken by TLDR is the correct one. The news should be summarized by human to be useful.
To crowd source this function we can create groups of like-minded people. Members of each group need to split the job. Such a process will save many souls.
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#67As an NLP researcher, this is interesting as a sort of summarization data set. The thing is though, summarizing news articles is best done by just reading the first paragraph of the article. News articles are intentionally written this way, and it's a very difficult baseline to beat in automatic summarization. Still nice site though.
No, the first paragraph of a news article is designed to give the reader just enough information to get the gist of the article, but tease the reader into continuing to read along. On web sites, the goal is to get the user to click the "more" or "details" link to get the whole article and thus display more ads. The reality is that most of the "good stuff" for a news article could be summarized in a paragraph that wou…
Militants took their fight with Israel into the heart of the country Wednesday, exploding a bomb on a public transport bus in Tel Aviv. The attack is likely to complicate already tenuous efforts to achieve a cease-fire.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/21/world/meast/gaza-israel-strike...
American efforts to help negotiate a cease-fire between Israel and Palestinian militants in the week-old Gaza rocket battle faced a new obstacle on Wednesday when the first bus bombing in years traumatized Tel Aviv, raising the prospect of a new Israeli retaliation just as Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton was working to achieve even a brief pause in the fighting.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/22/world/middleeast/israel-ga...
At least 24 people have been injured in an explosion on a bus in Israel's commercial capital, Tel Aviv, in what police described as a "terrorist attack".
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2012/11/20121121101...
None of these sites teased me into clicking through, they presented their stories in full text. I pay for NYT access, but their paywall is unrelated to your theory of PV corralling. These are all decent, concise treatments of the story.
What does "90% of the need to read the full article" mean to you? It seems like indefinable to me.
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#68Compared to all the others, I really like this execution of the simple, eye friendly design and the color coding. Well done! A small source url after the headline like reddit and HN do, would be a welcome addition imo.
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#69isn't that the point of headlines?
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
you forgot http://tldr.io
Thanks! I didn't know about that site before and it looks like they have many contributors. I considered doing a bookmarklet like they do but I figured that I would need a critical number of people before it could be realistic to use. In the meantime, I created a list[1] of popular stories from Reddit news sources. Each story links to a special hybrid page that allows you to write a summary on top while you read the…
I read the tldr.io of this TL;DR service first.