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Re: Explore Wikipedia Like a Windows XP Desktop

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This is really impressive. It's exactly what I imagined the original Microsoft Network in Windows 95 would have been like. And so The Microsoft Network wasn't a program you loaded like CompuServe. It was part of the OS, with folder icons that looked just like real folders. It was a kind of version of the Web where you could browse online data the same way you browsed your file system. This is what made it cool. It wa…

Talk about data being separate from programs always reminds me what a good job Microsoft did with the spacial filesystem (that means one folder is one window, and they remember their location), single-document interface (a UI paradigm) and COM (a cross-process communication system). As a novice user not understanding a whole lot about the system, your documents were in the operating system and not in a specific program (this still wasn't perfect and a lot of new users did think their documents were in programs, which might be why we gave that up) and those programs could talk to each other and embed each other's documents.

This stuff probably seemed moderately innovative if you didn't grow up with it, seemed blindingly obvious if you did grow up with it, and somehow, like idiots, we've managed to lose it again!

Re: Explore Wikipedia Like a Windows XP Desktop

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post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'd prefer for each item to have an unstructured set of tags ("fresco", "depiction of a castle", "depiction of Italy"), with automatic derivation of parent tags ("fresco" implies "painting") and the option to search by multiple tags. It's definitely possible to do this. IMSLP (a large repository of freely available sheet music, which differs by cross-cutting features such as genre, historical period, contributors (…

Which is actually done on commons, it just isn't very popular (on images, click the structured data tab and then look at depicts) [admittedly i think a big part of the problem is is implementation choices and UI decisions].

That's only "depicts" claims and is nowhere near comprehensive. It doesn't even come close to matching what's currently stated using categories. Running searches on that data is also hard compared to what IMSLP gives you for their own system.

Re: Explore Wikipedia Like a Windows XP Desktop

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This is cute, but the UI is uncannily not there (I think there were multiple attempts of designing the XP for web already which looked more authentic).

But my biggest gripe is, why represent it as a file system with WordPad displaying HTML? I get the idea for media, but not for the articles.

It's pretty obvious that Wikipedia should be a single CHM file. That would be nice and much more immersive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Compiled_HTML_Help

Re: Explore Wikipedia Like a Windows XP Desktop

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This is cute, but the UI is uncannily not there (I think there were multiple attempts of designing the XP for web already which looked more authentic). But my biggest gripe is, why represent it as a file system with WordPad displaying HTML? I get the idea for media, but not for the articles. It's pretty obvious that Wikipedia should be a single CHM file. That would be nice and much more immersive. https://en.wikipedi…

CHM files were great, it actually made documenting enjoyable. I miss those days.

Re: Explore Wikipedia Like a Windows XP Desktop

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lucky 10000? Three tricks if you didn't already know: 1: you'll find categories at the bottom of regular mediawiki pages 2: if you click one, you'll end up on a page like eg. this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Computers 3: the tree style tabs plugin in combination with middle-click is criminally underrated for navigating hierarchical data. (middleclick open-in-new-tab is only mildly handy, tree style tabs s…

TIL, I think I've landed on these pages a decent number of times but never from wikipedia's internal nav. I assumed they were more of an adhoc occasional thing, not a standard for sorting all pages.

Oh, right, and I forgot about the tree views!

The little arrows next to the subcategories can be clicked to open up trees, so you have hierarchical data in there as well. Try click open eg Classes of Computers (With 41 direct subcategories, and 91 pages directly in the top level category, that's a big tree!)

Categories are criminally under-used.

Re: Explore Wikipedia Like a Windows XP Desktop

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post #26

Where does the hierarchical classification come from?

Wikipedia category namespace: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Articles

Sorta?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Art

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:The_arts

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