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Steve Jobs in Exile – New book on his years at NeXT Computer

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Re: Steve Jobs in Exile – New book on his years at NeXT Computer

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I must have missed the bit where Steve Jobs was trying to create “legion” of his offspring, supported far-right parties in Europe and tried to foment civil war in the UK. Guess I’ll have to buy the book

He isn't comparing Jobs to Musk in a general sense, but specifically the way Musk took over Twitter. Not that I agree with the point. But I wouldn't assume the poster thinks Jobs and Musk are similar in a broad sense.

They are from the same species.

Re: Steve Jobs in Exile – New book on his years at NeXT Computer

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In many ways modern Apple is largely Next. The Apple that was dying when he returned largely faded away. Folks forget that Apple was literally days away from simply going bust. One of the most amazing comeback stories in the history of business.

Let's not be overly dramatic about that period. Apple was not days away from going bust. They were months away from filing bankruptcy. They were still a multi-billion dollar company even then. They just had very bad supply chain management. A bunch of old Macs sitting in warehouses not selling and too many people on payroll without any clear objectives. As Steve put it, "the ship was sinking and Gil (D'Amelio) was wo…

So that's Intel few years later too. Looks good on the book, looks bad on the bone

Re: Steve Jobs in Exile – New book on his years at NeXT Computer

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Let's not be overly dramatic about that period. Apple was not days away from going bust. They were months away from filing bankruptcy. They were still a multi-billion dollar company even then. They just had very bad supply chain management. A bunch of old Macs sitting in warehouses not selling and too many people on payroll without any clear objectives. As Steve put it, "the ship was sinking and Gil (D'Amelio) was wo…

It's funny how many people Jobs had to fire during this period, but is still seen as a good guy to many in the tech community. Not that different from when Musk took over Twitter.

Keep in mind Apple was dispersed across a multitude of confusing and overlapping products, from computers, to PDAs, cameras, scanners, printers (laser and inkjet), application software, servers, things made by Apple, and things that only got Apple's label, and so on. A common complaint was that not even Apple employees could figure out which Mac was more powerful just from the model number.

Jobs simplified the lineup - two sets of laptops, two sets of desktops, one professional, one personal. This shut down a significant part of the operations across the board.

Re: Steve Jobs in Exile – New book on his years at NeXT Computer

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I don't have the book, and I don't have much faith in writers, esp. when writing about NeXT, e.g., David Pogue writing in his column in _MacWorld_ and noting that Steve Jobs used a ThinkPad (correct) running Windows 95 (incorrect) since he couldn't be bothered to check that the ThinkPad model in question (I believe a 760C) was of course on the NeXTstep Intel compatibility list, and so, was of course running NeXTstep…

Wasn't PowerPoint also based on an application initially made for NeXT?

I don't think so --- it was originally a Mac application done by a company named Forethought, Inc. in 1987 (per Wikipedia), while the NeXT didn't come out until late in 1998

Re: Steve Jobs in Exile – New book on his years at NeXT Computer

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He isn't comparing Jobs to Musk in a general sense, but specifically the way Musk took over Twitter. Not that I agree with the point. But I wouldn't assume the poster thinks Jobs and Musk are similar in a broad sense.

They are from the same species.

Essentially 99.9% similar.

Re: Steve Jobs in Exile – New book on his years at NeXT Computer

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It helps that non-Windows trackpads were the first ones I could really use. (Deliberate phraseology; trackpads on Thinkpads running Linux worked pretty well for me too.) Interestingly, seem to work better on Windows these days as I've discovered inadvertently. Bought a cheap used/surplus Thinkpad to install Linux and discovered it came pre-installed with Windows 11 and it actually works well. Depends what I'm doing.…

I have a Thinkpad style USB keyboard meant for server racks. Has a trackpad and that little joystick. It's only flaw is it that it's too old for that windows key.

There are newer versions which have that key: Lenovo Group Limited Lenovo ThinkPad Compact USB Keyboard with TrackPoint (I bought half-a-dozen the last time they were made so that I would be sure of having one in the future).

Re: Steve Jobs in Exile – New book on his years at NeXT Computer

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Much respect to Steve and the engineers at Apple. However, I hate using a product from Apple that actually causes me physical pain after using it. The magic mouse. I use that for 10 minutes and my palm and wrist hurt badly. Many have experienced the same symptoms and yet Apple hasn’t changed its design. I get that Apple is creative. Do they change their product design based on feedback from actual users in their crea…

Thats me and the desktop trackpad, which lots of people seem to like.

Re: Steve Jobs in Exile – New book on his years at NeXT Computer

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Is that how filing for bankruptcy works?

Yeah, Trump went bankrupt 3 times, and he's still here

cough 6 times cough

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