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Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by ElFitz »

microtonal wrote: post #177
ElFitz wrote: post #160

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> Shitty will be the new normal. I’ve heard the same from the best devs, and some who thought themselves to be the best, I’ve known long before LLMs were ever a thing. I’m sure others heard the same when JavaScript and Python became near ubiquitous. When PHP emerged. When C supplanted Fortran and COBOL. When these two took over from Assembly. When punch cards went the way of the dodo. There’s always someone for whom…

There are different magnitudes of shitty. Also we went from compilers with an IDE that had a debugger, profiler, built-in help and would fit on a 3.5" disk and would load on machines with 640KiB RAM (Turbo Pascal) to chat apps or password managers that are hundreds of megabytes and regularly gobble up more than a gigabyte of memory because they ship with their own browser. Something is lost along the way.

> Something is lost along the way.

Definitely.

My point is more that it seems to have been the way of the world for the past few decades. I’m arguing it’s nothing new, basically a trope at this point.

And once that is said, if we care about it, what do we do about it? Besides just repeating it.

Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by ElFitz »

nicce wrote: post #304
sersi wrote: post #176

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To be fair with how powerful our computers are, it's a pity that electron apps like bitwarden, spotify are so slow and consume so much resources. I do miss the time when a lot of apps were snappy

I am just going to justify in the future that because of LLMs, there is no reason to use JavaScript, Java, Python etc anymore because of the available workforce. Only then when the technology itself is fit for the job.

Instead we’ll all run LLMs that generate UI from scratch, at run time, using up gigabytes of RAM and who knows how much power on every request and response.

Progress!

(I’m half kidding)

Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by ElFitz »

freetanga wrote: post #173
ElFitz wrote: post #160

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> Shitty will be the new normal. I’ve heard the same from the best devs, and some who thought themselves to be the best, I’ve known long before LLMs were ever a thing. I’m sure others heard the same when JavaScript and Python became near ubiquitous. When PHP emerged. When C supplanted Fortran and COBOL. When these two took over from Assembly. When punch cards went the way of the dodo. There’s always someone for whom…

Maybe it’s a process. Many of the transitions you mentioned did bring shitty apps (not all of them, the ones replacing tech for tech were mostly ok, the ones democratizing dev did come with a quality drop), but eventually Darwinism will take effect and trim the long tail. Coding per se is not hard. Proper engineering is. I do hope this change brings a change in focus (people train in algorithms, efficiency, solid dev…

The risk is people who incidentally get into software engineering through using agents probably won’t be aware of any of that. And probably wouldn’t care even if they did. And for most software they’ll create, single user, perhaps even single use, it’ll be fine.

And for those who might care about these things, they’ll probably just be facing constant pressure to deliver more, faster, perhaps with less.

One of the issue about literacy in algorithms, data modeling, efficiency, development patterns, systems designs… is that people either aren’t aware of them (and in the best case scenario reinvent the wheel), don’t care about them, or feel they aren’t given the time to invest in learning them (or worse, might be penalized for it).

Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by ageitgey »

dominotw wrote: post #383
conductr wrote: post #359

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Hate it all you want but it’s a reality in this case. There’s a reason big consulting firms are making huge pivot to AI consulting. Everyone in the business world is doing this and trying to find value with AI. I’m a CFO and network regularly with other executives, board members who also are board members at other companies, investors, people who see a combined large population of companies and I’ve not spoken to a s…

i am not hating ai or whatever. I am hating how every interaction now is some ridiculous clickbait format like "every X i know" type shit. If its so obvious that everyone is doing it then you dont need "every executive i know takes a shit" . every interaction is now laced with ulterior motives like op trying to pitch himself as ai expert to sell his courses or whatever. He is apparently going around blowing executive…

> every interaction is now laced with ulterior motives like op trying to pitch himself as ai expert to sell his courses or whatever. He is apparently going around blowing executives minds with claude cowork. so ridiculous.

With all due respect, I have no idea what you are talking about. I'm saying that I've observed friends and associates (who are executives, because I'm old and work in business) pick up and adopt a specific tool at rates faster than any other tool I can think of, which seems interesting to me. Do with that information whatever you want. It's just an anecdote from a random person on the internet. I'm sorry that this observation makes you angry.

I'm not selling or pitching you (or anyone else) anything. I haven't taught any programming courses since the 2010s (pre-ChatGPT).

Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by Divs2890 »

I personally use it in corporate insurance business. Risk analysis of the client's portfolio, Drafting Risk slips, Policy wordings, Comparing multiple quotes and making a comparative quote chart for client presentation, policy audit... it just makes the life so easy..

Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by senordevnyc »

dakolli wrote: post #489
dakolli wrote: post #327

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3k is like 1/50th of the penalty you're going to get if you make a mistake on your taxes, trust me I know, and Anthropic isn't going to be covering those penalties. IRS is going to make a ton of money off you naive people. Get a better CPA who's not committing malpractice like your current one.

Not sure why this is getting down voted. You will get audited 3 years after the offense and they will charge you interest higher than the worst credit card for those three yrs (during which you had no clue you offended). Be fool and replace your CPA with your favorite text autocomplete machine learning model and let me know how that works out for you.

This is blatantly false. The interest and penalties from the IRS are much lower than the average credit card (25%+, compounding daily).

And your statement that “making a mistake on your taxes” results in penalties above $150k is so dumb I don’t even know where to start.

You know CPAs make mistakes all the time, right?

Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by devmor »

nunodonato wrote: post #154
devmor wrote: post #9

If I heard my employer was using Claude to manage payroll, I’d be looking for a new job - quickly .

why? you could leverage that and with some nice prompt injections get a raise :D

Tempting! But I’m not paid well enough to avoid prison yet.

Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by mannanj »

bandrami wrote: post #429
mannanj wrote: post #407

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Makes me wonder though, how likely it is your field/industry/discipline/company/business is to be replaced by some small player who makes the risk, doesn't get caught or deterred early enough, and then either becomes large enough to sway the industry regulation or pay off or otherwise continue to deter enforcement onto them. Isn't it the uber model? Isn't that likely where the future is to go with this new uncertain…

The procurement and certification processes we go through are basically specifically designed to keep a scrappy startup with the next new idea from ever winning a contract without significant institutional buy-in, for reasons that will probably become clear as other sectors deal with the fallout of the past two fiscal quarters in maintenance costs

Ah makes sense. I wonder if it absolutely necessary they need to win a contract through to compete, and if they could they disrupt another way.

Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by HeyLaughingBoy »

wing-_-nuts wrote: post #397
parpfish wrote: post #340

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Eventually there will be an incident with bad software at a hospital or bank that leaves some people dead or broke. Then regulators will take things seriously.

Which is why the medical device software industry is so heavily regulated after the Therac-25 incident. Oh, wait, it's not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therac-25

Wait, what?

Then why did I just spend the last few days releasing a slew of documents for a handful of trivial changes to an ancient medical device?

Someone should have told me that I could just ignore regulations!

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