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Bitwarden scrubs 'Always free' and 'Inclusion' values from its site

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Re: Bitwarden scrubs 'Always free' and 'Inclusion' values from its site

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post #19

Great heads up! I will work on self-hosting this month.

There are 2 versions out there, the one from Bitwarden itself, and an open-source rewrite called Vaultwarden.

But, the main developer of works at Bitwarden.

Thankfully you can easily export your passwords and move to another system (unlike say Authy where we had to inject Javascript to extract the TOTP seeds).

Re: Bitwarden scrubs 'Always free' and 'Inclusion' values from its site

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post #15
post #9

I stopped endorsing closed-source software to friends and family years ago, because you can't trust the companies behind them not to quietly change directions. Years ago I used a free workout app that I really liked. After a few months of using it I recommended it to friends. I only much later found out that I was on a grandfathered version of the free plan without ads or restrictions. The company had made changes to…

I hear you, but the flip side is that it sounds like they did right by their early adopters in grandfathering you in.

Early adopters are exactly the people that like to test and recommend things to the majority. Without being aware of it, I was recommending a different product than the one I was using.

People stake their own personal reputations behind their recommendations. I don't think quietly changing the product without warning is doing right by their early adopters.

Re: Bitwarden scrubs 'Always free' and 'Inclusion' values from its site

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compared with KeePassXC and Syncthing, it is infinitely more expensive!

Oh yeah, I love having to manage sync conflicts in my password database because I was dumb enough to edit it on two separate computers that weren't both online at the same time.

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Re: Bitwarden scrubs 'Always free' and 'Inclusion' values from its site

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post #14
post #9

I stopped endorsing closed-source software to friends and family years ago, because you can't trust the companies behind them not to quietly change directions. Years ago I used a free workout app that I really liked. After a few months of using it I recommended it to friends. I only much later found out that I was on a grandfathered version of the free plan without ads or restrictions. The company had made changes to…

Bitwarden is open-source though? This is about the hosted version of it, which has a free tier. But you can run the same software on your server at home if you want, for free. (That said, I am also concerned about the direction Bitwarden is taking. I just think this shows that even OSS projects can have direction/rugpull issues.)

> But you can run the same software on your server at home if you want, for free.

Whats to say this will still be true if the company gets sold?

Re: Bitwarden scrubs 'Always free' and 'Inclusion' values from its site

#26
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compared with KeePassXC and Syncthing, it is infinitely more expensive!

Oh yeah, I love having to manage sync conflicts in my password database because I was dumb enough to edit it on two separate computers that weren't both online at the same time.

Yeah, my main reason to stay away from Keepass, everything is in a single versioned binary file. I like 'passwordstore.org', where every secret is it's own gpg-encrypted textfile in a git repo. Every change is a commit, easy to see history, easy to revert or know which version is newest. And easy to selfhost, you just need a place to git push/pull from.

Re: Bitwarden scrubs 'Always free' and 'Inclusion' values from its site

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post #20
post #4

Now I started to worry about their clients openness to work with valultwarden. They also said in the past they will not change the behavior to not accept third party servers. But who knows now.

As much as I hate the changes Bitwarden is making, I’m kinda with them on not adding official vaultwarden support. Having to support multiple backends (some of which you don’t control!) with your frontend makes everything massively more complicated.

Its not about them having to support multiple 3rd party backends, its about them not making any hostile changes which actively block them.

Re: Bitwarden scrubs 'Always free' and 'Inclusion' values from its site

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post #2

"Always free" was never sustainable for a password manager that took VC money and now needs growth at all costs [0]. Obviously predictable. Bitwarden is now in the extraction phase and it is now time to pay an expensive... ...$1.65 a month. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34427981

Look at the CEOs other "ventures" he is a private equity squeeze guy.

Re: Bitwarden scrubs 'Always free' and 'Inclusion' values from its site

#30
sigh

The writing on the wall seems to have been when they suddenly doubled the price of a yearly subscription without notifying anyone. That struck me as skeezy as **...looks like it may just be the beginning.

I hope people are actively mirroring their GH repos, because I expect at some point they might suddenly decide to change the license to Proprietary and move to scrub the repos from the web. At which point, the community will then fork the last-free version and start to maintain a fork.

Which I really don't want to see happen, because having to move all my shit for myself and my family again after the LastPass debacle is going to be an extraordinary headache.

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