My posts* got to the first spot on hackernews couple of times. Never once it broke down like that. And why would it, it's just a bunch of html and css files served through (free) vercel (don't think it matters). I wonder what do people run their blogs these days, so they fail under the pressure so easily.
“Too dangerous to release” or just too expensive?
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Re: “Too dangerous to release” or just too expensive?
#32The real Mythos was the friends we made along the way.
Re: “Too dangerous to release” or just too expensive?
#33It all sounds a bit too marketing-ey to me “we have this amazing model that is too good to release” but the goal is still AGI? Ok right.
The missing piece is the reminder that scarcity still exists.
Whether its actually scarcity or hype building or a bit of column a, bit of column b is TBD. Then again, the new models seem more expensive, they slashed the tokens thrown around in thinking, and put up limit speedbumps so it’s probably not all gaslighting about compute bottlenecks.
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#34It's probably a little of both: dangerous and expensive. This article makes a good case that the cost is at least part of the reason. I wish the article could have been a lot tighter and shorter. This is not earth shattering information that requires a New Yorker length piece of investigative journalism.
Also dangerous is expensive. If you cause damage you sometimes need to pay for it.
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#35AI has always been dangerous, but not existentially dangerous. Mythos is dangerous but it's not going to Skynet us. Just the same as the military drone using some sort of OpenCV library and target prioritisation loop isn't going to turn evil on us.
Yeah we have literally no examples of more intelligent beings accidentally or purposefully wiping out less intelligent beings. Any time such a scenario could have conceivably happened, the less intelligent beings were able to foresee the methods, mechanisms, and motivations of the more intelligent beings and were able to counteract it.
If we look at our human history, there are millions of examples where less intelligent beings destroyed highly advanced civilizations.
It was never about intelligence, but about willingness to destroy (willingness to defend is not enough). Babylon, Egypt, Persia, Greece, Rome, China, ... I won't mention current examples ...
Re: “Too dangerous to release” or just too expensive?
#36It's probably a little of both: dangerous and expensive. This article makes a good case that the cost is at least part of the reason. I wish the article could have been a lot tighter and shorter. This is not earth shattering information that requires a New Yorker length piece of investigative journalism.
This was nothing like investigative journalism; it's just LLM spew. It could have been written in a handful of paragraphs.
Re: “Too dangerous to release” or just too expensive?
#37My guess is they are still in the "fake it till you make it" phase. There's no Mythos, it's just a hype machine fueled by a hot air.
It's on bedrock and in use by companies
Re: “Too dangerous to release” or just too expensive?
#38Opus Fast Mode is 30$/150$/M Input/Output cost.
Mythos's pricing (from model card) is 25$/125$ Input/Output cost.
Based on this I doubt that Mythos pro is too dangerous to release or provides significantly more value.
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#39AI has always been dangerous, but not existentially dangerous. Mythos is dangerous but it's not going to Skynet us. Just the same as the military drone using some sort of OpenCV library and target prioritisation loop isn't going to turn evil on us.
Yeah we have literally no examples of more intelligent beings accidentally or purposefully wiping out less intelligent beings. Any time such a scenario could have conceivably happened, the less intelligent beings were able to foresee the methods, mechanisms, and motivations of the more intelligent beings and were able to counteract it.
You have a lot of faith in the chatbots.
Re: “Too dangerous to release” or just too expensive?
#40I'd be tempted to offer this as a consultant service were I at Anthropic.
It feels like an AI tool that needs professionals to interface with it. Get some of those professionals, have them work with clients in a targeted way. It helps reduce the exposure the tool has to bad actors, and reduces the amount of resource usage that it will incur, because it's being used only by trained individuals.
Use what you learn from the experience to further refine its operation and make it less expensive to operate.