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Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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Some brands take software very seriously. This isn't an "entire industry" problem. My experience is pretty small; I've owned the same Tesla Model 3 LR for the last 6.5 years, and the software has been pretty much solid the entire time. There was briefly a problem with echos when I called land lines using the bluetooth and my iPhone, but that problem eventually went away - not clear if it was because the iPhone change…

> Some brands take software very seriously. > Tesla It's really hard to take this claim seriously about a car company that programs its self-driving system to disengage if it detects what it thinks is a likely crash, so said company can then tell investigators, regulators, juries, and the public that "the car wasn't in self-driving mode when it crashed." "I'm not touching her, Mom. THE STICK is touching her!" ...and…

This might be historically accurate, but no longer to represent the present state IMO

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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Because no company has ever broken the law before

What a ridiculous argument! So what is the point in having laws then? No doubt you believe any adtech request for personal data should be met by the subject promptly bending over and grabbing their ankles with both hands?

I am absolutely sure (even though I can't give a link as proof) that all telephony operators everywhere have to provide a backdoor for the "authorities" in order to obtain their licence. So, yes, a telecom provider will be bending over immediately, or risk losing their licence.

I also suspect that in many cases, the operator won't even be informed about the tracking because the gov agencies already have direct access to all the data.

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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And once you've gotten rid of Google and Apple, your telecom company tracks you, your CC payments help track you and even cameras in public do. It's hard to not want to throw your hands in the air screaming "whatever" when almost everything you use in public is somehow used to track you either as you move around, or in the future.

This is one of those things that can't ever be solved with individual solutions but needs to be solved through legislation and standards, and ideally a fundamental right to privacy (and a fundamental redefinition of what privacy means when it comes to corporate surveillance of individuals).

Its quite easily solved. Stop buying them. There's lots of cars out there that don't have these fun features. Buy them.

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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> Unfortunately I think it’s only a matter of time before the modem and GPS become more deeply integrated into the car (making this blog post infeasible), or cars have more drastic failure modes when the modem/GPS is removed, or anti-right-to-repair laws get passed to further clamp down on this behavior. Guaranteed

It's for the safety of the children.

The DOW is over 50,000!

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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I bet if you can speak to the mechanic without the service advisor supervising the innteraction $100 would do it.

Yea but it’s worth at least $500 to me so I’d give the guy more, personally. $100 is a nice dinner out, $500 might help pay a bill.

can i have a five hundred?

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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1987 4runner, no phone, use cash.

I have heard whispers at times that people who operate 'off grid' like this end up being viewed heavily as persons of interest. Anecdotally via friends in law enforcement.

I live in Idaho so I don't think that's much of an issue.

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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Yeah, this is similar to what I hear about Tesla's everywhere. While some members of the company leadership can be polarizing, the product itself seems very solid. Have been saving up for my first "good" car since starting my end-career job, really want to get a Tesla, but wish there was a hybrid option due to charger anxiety. Otherwise, would get one already.

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Yeah, fuck VolksWagen!

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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I have a few year old Volkswagen. I'm security conscious and made sure to disable all the data collection I could find in the companion app, turn off remote access services, dig through the infotainment to turn off what I could, etc. Last year I requested a Carfax on it, and one of the fields in the request was current mileage. I entered an estimate like 75000 miles. On form submission, that field failed validation w…

I think reporting mileage would be one of the only usages for data collection that is ok with me. In some countries there's a SCAM in which the owner or agency lowers the mileage of the car and sell it for much more because of the lower mileage.

It's hard to take any piece of text seriously when it contains all-caps'd emotionally charged words seemingly just to make sure we notice that they're there.

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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We need more posts like this. I'd love a follow-up where instead of removing it injects fake data to the system. I am tired of passively being digitally assaulted. If they are going to do this to me without my knowing consent I want to fight back.

This is how you get squished like an ant by an ambitious federal prosecutor using the CFAA.

Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid

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I have a few year old Volkswagen. I'm security conscious and made sure to disable all the data collection I could find in the companion app, turn off remote access services, dig through the infotainment to turn off what I could, etc. Last year I requested a Carfax on it, and one of the fields in the request was current mileage. I entered an estimate like 75000 miles. On form submission, that field failed validation w…

I think this is interesting because it collides my intuition from the pre-adtech world with the post. Surely collecting telemetry on nearly every mile you drive could never be a sensible use of time or money, right? What kind of insanity is that? But then of course I know that every click on every website is recorded for all time and that data must be many thousands of times less valuable.

>Surely collecting telemetry on nearly every mile you drive could never be a sensible use of time or money, right? What kind of insanity is that?

They're not collecting in depth telemetry on every mile you drive, as you drive it. They're literally just every couple of days sending the number on the odometer up to their server. Most carmakers do it simply so they can sell you oil changes

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