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reCAPTCHA Mobile Verification Is Bringing the Play Integrity API to Desktops

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Re: reCAPTCHA Mobile Verification Is Bringing the Play Integrity API to Desktops

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Aside from the horrendous privacy implications, is there a possible argument that this is anti-competitive?

That's the whole goal of the concept. Safetynet (the predecessor of Play Integrity) was developed to block CyanogenMod and then later used to block Huawei.

Re: reCAPTCHA Mobile Verification Is Bringing the Play Integrity API to Desktops

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If Windows wasn't so far behind Apple and the rest of the industry in regards to integrity APIs this wouldn't be necessary. It's embarrassing for Microsoft that someone needs to use a separate, more secure device since their security is so bad.

Re: reCAPTCHA Mobile Verification Is Bringing the Play Integrity API to Desktops

#5

If Windows wasn't so far behind Apple and the rest of the industry in regards to integrity APIs this wouldn't be necessary. It's embarrassing for Microsoft that someone needs to use a separate, more secure device since their security is so bad.

It's embarrassing for Hacker News that people here are commenting to support attestation systems that prevent you from owning the device you bought.

Re: reCAPTCHA Mobile Verification Is Bringing the Play Integrity API to Desktops

#6

If Windows wasn't so far behind Apple and the rest of the industry in regards to integrity APIs this wouldn't be necessary. It's embarrassing for Microsoft that someone needs to use a separate, more secure device since their security is so bad.

Integrity doesn't guarantee any security to your device, just that the device is same as from the factory. That's a common misconception.

Re: reCAPTCHA Mobile Verification Is Bringing the Play Integrity API to Desktops

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post #5

If Windows wasn't so far behind Apple and the rest of the industry in regards to integrity APIs this wouldn't be necessary. It's embarrassing for Microsoft that someone needs to use a separate, more secure device since their security is so bad.

It's embarrassing for Hacker News that people here are commenting to support attestation systems that prevent you from owning the device you bought.

Attestation isn't against being able to do whatever you want with your own device. It just means that if you want other people to trust your custom device you need to get them to trust your signing key.

Re: reCAPTCHA Mobile Verification Is Bringing the Play Integrity API to Desktops

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post #8

I am going to assume that this also destroys millions of AI agents and bot scrapers this time which is why some “AI Engineers” were complaining about this recently. Well, this is how Google will kill all the scrapers on its search data.

Not entirely, Google's own page says:

> Fraud Defense leverages a sophisticated and adaptable risk analysis engine to shield against automated software. It is specifically designed to orchestrate trust for the agentic web, neutralizing malicious scrapers while welcoming legitimate AI agents.

I'm sure it'll block a whole bunch of awful scrapers but if Google doesn't hate a bot, it'll be able to pass.

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