This is why I want a Chinese car. At least they won't do anything with my data.
Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid
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Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid
#302Earlier quoted context omitted.
Resolution of less than 1 meter is normal with a decent view of the sky and a lack of interference. GPS itself is always receive-only on our end as consumers. What problem are we trying to solve here? At this point in time, guided navigation with completely offline maps and GPS has already been a no-brainer off-the-shelf thing for decades.
> GPS itself is always receive-only on our end as consumers. AFAIK it's almost always enhanced by things cell tower data, wifi network data, and external data sources (besides the satellites). Look up GPS/GNSS enhancement and augmentation for the latter.
I mean exactly what I wrote: "GPS itself" means GPS, itself.
Not GPS and WAAS. Not GPS and RTK. Not GPS + wifi + BT + cellular. I didn't mean any of those things, so I did not write any of those things.
If the thing is more than GPS -- by itself -- then that's outside the scope of what I was referring to with the juxtaposition of the words "GPS" and "itself".
(If a thing -- by itself -- can be better specified to be that way using concise phrasing, then I'm all ears.)
Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid
#303I was looking into this with Teslas. Apparently the car will not be bricked if you cut the antenna wires. They are in the side mirrors (both sides) and the wires are exposed when you pull the interior door panels. If you then charge only at home you’re even more private than gas cars, which must stop at gas stations with cameras. But both types of vehicles are easily spotted with Flock cameras. And if you keep your p…
>Gas stations with cameras.
Everything has cameras these days. On my street almost every house has a cloud connected camera. Every major road has cameras, every store and business. Now I’m not suggesting we give up the fight for privacy but avoiding gas stations does nothing
Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid
#304Earlier quoted context omitted.
> surely as far as the carrier is concerned, all traffic from the mobile device is the same Going on a bit of a tangent, but deep packet inspection can identify packets routed using NAT, so if the phone is operating as a typical hotspot it would be identifiable by your carrier. Carriers in the USA used to block / denylist / charge extra for tethering using this exact approach.
Deep Packet Inspection presumably requires a certificate to be installed on my device to allow my connection to be MiTM'd.
At one point it was definitely not so deep... carriers were literally looking at the IP TTL and seeing whether it was a recognised value from the phone or a few hops less than one of the common defaults, in which case it was considered tethering traffic.
You could spoof it by finding out your mobile's TTL, overriding the TTL in the connecting device to be one higher than the mobile.
Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid
#305I cannot imagine the paranoia that it would take for me to go through this process.
Get a determined ex-partner who knows a lot about you and wants to harm you or kidnap your children. For most people this represents the greatest immediate risk with this kind of data.
Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid
#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
It does produce a local Wi-Fi network but there's no evidence that it supports internet communication. That would be considered a hotspot, which not all carriers even support.
I've never understood how this can be limited in practice: surely as far as the carrier is concerned, all traffic from the mobile device is the same (unless there are identifiers on the traffic coming from hotspotted devices via the mobile device). Here in Australia we've never had any form of hotspot detection/segmentation - if you have a data plan, all data features work (across all carriers). I do recall lots of o…
I recently switched to a carrier (Fido/Rogers in Canada). My plan limits hotspot by disabling the hotspot settings on ios. However, I was able to enable it again by changing the access point name.
Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid
#307props for still using Skitch to annotate images in 2026
Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid
#308> Even after the modem is removed, if you connect your phone to the car via Bluetooth then the car will use your phone as an internet connection and send all the same telemetry data back to Toyota. However, if you use a wired USB connection then it does not do that (see the discussion here and elsewhere), so I exclusively use CarPlay via USB. The problem with this is that both carplay and android auto capture their o…
And once you've gotten rid of Google and Apple, your telecom company tracks you, your CC payments help track you and even cameras in public do. It's hard to not want to throw your hands in the air screaming "whatever" when almost everything you use in public is somehow used to track you either as you move around, or in the future.
At least you can shut your cellphone off and pay in cash.
Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid
#309I'm still just refusing to buy this garbage in the first place.
All these car manufacturers pushing this horrorshow deserve to go under. Tbh it looks like most will soon....
Re: Removing the modem and GPS from my 2024 RAV4 hybrid
#310Earlier quoted context omitted.
They beep when you go above the speed limit, and only for a couple seconds. If they do that 'constantly' the problem is in the driver's seat... It takes two seconds to turn off in my car (though by law it has to reset on every drive), but I never bother. In situations where it's "ok" to drive a little over the limit, it's a small price to pay and a gentle reminder.
The car probably doesn't have perfect knowledge of speed limits across Europe.
The car reads the speed limit signs too, they don't just rely on GPS.