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Re: Rewrite Bun in Rust has been merged

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Post by 12_throw_away »

zozbot234 wrote: post #380
12_throw_away wrote: post #360

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There's actually a good example of this in the rewrite [1], in `PathString::slice`. They are doing an unsafe operation to return a slice that could be a use-after-free, if the caller had not already guaranteed that an invariant will remain true. Following proper rust idiomatic practices, claude has added a SAFETY comment to the unsafe block to explain why it's safe: "caller guarantees the borrowed memory outlives thi…

One potential way to solve this in a principled manner is to turn at least some "unsafe" annotations into ghost capability tokens that are explicitly threaded through the code and consistently checked by the compiler. Manufacturing the capability could itself be left as an unsafe operation, or require a runtime check of some kind. You already see this in some cases, for example the NonZero generic type can be viewed…

Yes, or you could review the code.

Re: Rewrite Bun in Rust has been merged

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Post by shimman »

_aavaa_ wrote: post #302
ordu wrote: post #289

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The half of the files contain 'unsafe' keyword? It doesn't seem as a good rewrite. What is the point of rewrite into Rust, if ~half of your code is still unsafe?

1. Rewrite from zig to rust in as close to zig as you can. 2. Turn into idiomatic rust.

1. Get hired into a company where you have a solid bet on making multi-century lasting generational wealth (>$50,000,000).

2. Every waking moment do everything in your power to boost the company that might give you the ability to define the direction of technology for the rest of your life.

3. Use the only thing you have (bun) to help push you in this direction and do things to help boost LLM marketing (a technology that already deeply struggles to find customers and has to rely on welfare (lucrative government contracts) to make sales).

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Honestly think this generation of tech workers in SF are more evil than those that worked at Google + Facebook in the early 10s.

Re: Rewrite Bun in Rust has been merged

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Post by whateveracct »

eqvinox wrote: post #18

If this goes wrong even in the slightest , the ridicule about a drug dealer getting high on their own supply will be neverending and grim.

they are already high on their own supply

did you read their Mythos paper? they're anthropomorphizing it like crazy. Maybe it's just cheap heat, but if they really believe the LLM is conscious..wew

Re: Rewrite Bun in Rust has been merged

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Post by shimman »

simlevesque wrote: post #257
noosphr wrote: post #248

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When you don't own your company any more anything you say can be safely ignored. It was obvious that the token spend will need to be justified.

They've been shady since day one, claiming wild performance improvement compared to their competitors and never proving any of them.

You don't think installing NPM packages 2 seconds faster, something most working devs do one a month, to be amazing?

Re: Rewrite Bun in Rust has been merged

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Post by oleggromov »

xiphias2 wrote: post #6

I'm actually excited for somebody trying experimenting with automated translation, but I'm afraid this will be lots of backwards compatibility issues. I started looking at the commits, and it's basically solving the ,,tests not pass'' problem by changing the tests themselves. The real work of making it working on programs that are already deployed will be just starting now. The only silver lining I see is that the se…

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Re: Rewrite Bun in Rust has been merged

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Post by whateveracct »

aarjaneiro wrote: post #195

So many of the code comments on the new port concern only discussion on how it was ported, usually referring reader to the original zig implementation. So now I'd basically be reading 2x the amount of comments and code to understand _why_ anything is happening.

the new code is generally hot ass

Re: Rewrite Bun in Rust has been merged

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Post by bakugo »

ordu wrote: post #289
gm678 wrote: post #249

$ rg 'unsafe [{]' src/ | wc -l 10428 $ rg 'unsafe [{]' src/ -l | wc -l 736 Language Files Lines Code Comments Blanks ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ Rust 1443 929213 732281 116293 80639 Zig 1298 711112 574563 59118 77431 TypeScript 2604 654684 510464 82254 61966 JavaScript 4370 364928 293211 36108 35609 C 111 305123 205875 79077 20171 C++ 586 262475 217111 19004 26360 C Header 779 100979…

The half of the files contain 'unsafe' keyword? It doesn't seem as a good rewrite. What is the point of rewrite into Rust, if ~half of your code is still unsafe?

The point is to serve as marketing for Claude. Absolutely nothing else.

Re: Rewrite Bun in Rust has been merged

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Post by embedding-shape »

serial_dev wrote: post #357
embedding-shape wrote: post #223

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No, what we knew then is still what was known then. Today is different, and seemingly they've committed to the rewrite, so now it makes sense that people have strong feelings about it, as it's no longer just an experiment.

“Nobody could have seen this coming…”? Well apparently a lot of people did. Maybe Jarred didn’t, maybe you didn’t, but most people correctly predicted what was coming.

See what coming?! I really don't understand what's going on here. Correctly predicted what, that Bun was being rewritten into Rust? I'm not sure anyone doubted that, all the work they did was public???

What on earth is going on here?

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