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Re: Grok Build

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Post by bonesss »

rvz wrote: post #9

Only $300 a month. (Or $3,000 a year.) The xAI casino wants all of your money even if you don't use it for a month.

I’m still flabbergasted by the business model, it reminds me of SEO services: if you were any kind of good at it there is infinite money to be made partnering with established players and selling goods and services directly.

Selling tools to others when you’re not using them yourself says everything about the underlying utility of what’s being sold.

xAI could be threatening Office, or Windows, or Unreal Engine, Chromium, SalesForce, global ERP, tax software for citizens and governments alike, or Apples manufacturing prowess… but, no, forget that lame nonsense, let’s see what I have in my wallet! Maybe I can give some to Elon to cover up his sketchy business practices. Sounds logical.

Re: Grok Build

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Post by frb »

guywithahat wrote: post #10
frb wrote: post #2

Only for SuperGrok Heavy ($300/m) subscribers. Too bad.. Would have been curious to compare against the other competitors

To be fair it's in early beta, I wouldn't be surprised if they open it up to more people as time goes on. The real question is if they'll open source it or follow Anthropic's lead in keeping everything closed-source

You could be right.

Just feels like they are a bit late to the CLI coding agent party. So why not get in with a bang and open up to a broader audience?

All other agents have a lower barrier to try and play around.

Curious too about open sourcing. But they seem to be doing -p mode and ACP right already. Anthropic is opening a lot of opportunities for competitors right now

Re: Grok Build

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Post by SwellJoe »

2001zhaozhao wrote: post #3

> Headless mode (-p) allows easily running agents inside scripts and automations. The CLI also provides full ACP support to build your own bots and agent orchestration apps. Good, they are explicitly supporting automation similar to OpenAI.

Pretty sure they all do.

$ claude -h

Usage: claude [options] [command] [prompt]

Claude Code - starts an interactive session by default, use -p/--print for non-interactive output

$ gemini -h

Usage: gemini [options] [command]

Gemini CLI - Defaults to interactive mode. Use -p/--prompt for non-interactive (headless) mode.

$ copilot -h

Usage: copilot [options] [command]

GitHub Copilot CLI - An AI-powered coding assistant.

Start an interactive session to chat with Copilot, or use -p/--prompt for non-interactive scripting.

Re: Grok Build

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Post by Donald »

SwellJoe wrote: post #15
2001zhaozhao wrote: post #3

> Headless mode (-p) allows easily running agents inside scripts and automations. The CLI also provides full ACP support to build your own bots and agent orchestration apps. Good, they are explicitly supporting automation similar to OpenAI.

Pretty sure they all do. $ claude -h Usage: claude [options] [command] [prompt] Claude Code - starts an interactive session by default, use -p/--print for non-interactive output $ gemini -h Usage: gemini [options] [command] Gemini CLI - Defaults to interactive mode. Use -p/--prompt for non-interactive (headless) mode. $ copilot -h Usage: copilot [options] [command] GitHub Copilot CLI - An AI-powered coding assistant.…

Anthropic has made a recent change that Claude Code will only bill extra usage for the print / non-interactive mode:

> Starting June 15, 2026, Claude Agent SDK and claude -p usage no longer counts toward your Claude plan’s usage limits. Your subscription usage limits stay the same and stay reserved for interactive use of Claude Code, Claude Cowork, and Claude.

Re: Grok Build

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Post by SwellJoe »

Donald wrote: post #17
SwellJoe wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty sure they all do. $ claude -h Usage: claude [options] [command] [prompt] Claude Code - starts an interactive session by default, use -p/--print for non-interactive output $ gemini -h Usage: gemini [options] [command] Gemini CLI - Defaults to interactive mode. Use -p/--prompt for non-interactive (headless) mode. $ copilot -h Usage: copilot [options] [command] GitHub Copilot CLI - An AI-powered coding assistant.…

Anthropic has made a recent change that Claude Code will only bill extra usage for the print / non-interactive mode: > Starting June 15, 2026, Claude Agent SDK and claude -p usage no longer counts toward your Claude plan’s usage limits. Your subscription usage limits stay the same and stay reserved for interactive use of Claude Code, Claude Cowork, and Claude.

Billing is a separate issue from whether automation is explicitly supported.

Re: Grok Build

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Post by addedGone »

SwellJoe wrote: post #18
Donald wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anthropic has made a recent change that Claude Code will only bill extra usage for the print / non-interactive mode: > Starting June 15, 2026, Claude Agent SDK and claude -p usage no longer counts toward your Claude plan’s usage limits. Your subscription usage limits stay the same and stay reserved for interactive use of Claude Code, Claude Cowork, and Claude.

Billing is a separate issue from whether automation is explicitly supported.

Not in this context, obviously "Claude" support automation as it's also available since always via API, it's obvious poster was talking about subsidized usage.
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