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Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by itsalwaysgood »

mooreds wrote: post #377
darepublic wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have seen people just generate large docs with Claude cowork and they themselves have not scrutinized it or know why/how it's useful. It's just kind of impressive in its volume and well formatedness. And then they dump it in your lap as being helpful

> And then they dump it in your lap as being helpful I've been guilty of this and gotten pushback from my manager: "this feels like homework, cut these options down to 100 words each, max". Curation and refinement are even more important when you can have genAI generate reams of text. Seeking outside signals is even more important, like talking to customers, looking at real usage data, and more. It's too easy to trus…

It's all fun and games until some high level executive realizes everyone is using it and still demanding the same paycheck.

Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by gedy »

notRobot wrote: post #388

IDK if it's just me, but the rate at which Anthropic and similar are launching (and changing!) features and offerings doesn't inspire confidence. I expect stability from software and platforms I buy into and integrate into my systems. Feels like they're just using LLMs to produce enormous levels of output, without understanding that quantity ≠ quality.

The thing is that's the whole vibe code & agentic pitch right now. Do stuff quick quick and throw it over the wall, patch stuff, rinse and repeat. It's not seeking quality and stability.

Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by wing-_-nuts »

bix6 wrote: post #336
darepublic wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have seen people just generate large docs with Claude cowork and they themselves have not scrutinized it or know why/how it's useful. It's just kind of impressive in its volume and well formatedness. And then they dump it in your lap as being helpful

This. The amount of long winded unedited docs people think it’s ok to dump on me now is unbelievable.

It's ok, you can use AI to summarize the key points. No need to read anymore! /s

Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by caminante »

infecto wrote: post #363
Ucalegon wrote: post #349

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does Anthropic's DPA provide indemnity to code thats produced from the product and any damages associated with security vulnerabilities within that code? We are talking about vibe coded applications by executives and the risks that are associated with that, nothing within a DPA covers that. Please, be my guest, link an Anthropic DPA which includes indemnity for damages associated with the code produced. Again, you ke…

I concede that I started the thread with a joke but wow you really are upset. Let’s take a step back. Apologies again for that joke it just the entire discussion reads like non-technical non-legal advice you get from the typical corporate IT. Each entity and group have to consider the risks. I don’t think anything you’re trying to point at though is really useful for the discussion at hand. There is absolutely a use…

> I concede that I started the thread with a joke but wow you really are upset.

You went further than "a joke."

You continued making aggressive, non-substantive remarks that were out of line.[0]

#1 > you have no idea about the details.

#2 > i don’t think you have a grasp what’s going on around you.

#3 > What is your deal about contract law? It’s not some mystical thing.

You wasted everyone's time.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by inanutshellus »

ElFitz wrote: post #160
puchatek wrote: post #152

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The future is perpetually dealing with the fallout from all the vibe coding as the pool of people who'd have a shot at fixing it gets smaller and smaller. Shitty will be the new normal.

> Shitty will be the new normal. I’ve heard the same from the best devs, and some who thought themselves to be the best, I’ve known long before LLMs were ever a thing. I’m sure others heard the same when JavaScript and Python became near ubiquitous. When PHP emerged. When C supplanted Fortran and COBOL. When these two took over from Assembly. When punch cards went the way of the dodo. There’s always someone for whom…

As you say - "good enough" is always the normal.

Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by caminante »

Ucalegon wrote: post #386
infecto wrote: post #363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I concede that I started the thread with a joke but wow you really are upset. Let’s take a step back. Apologies again for that joke it just the entire discussion reads like non-technical non-legal advice you get from the typical corporate IT. Each entity and group have to consider the risks. I don’t think anything you’re trying to point at though is really useful for the discussion at hand. There is absolutely a use…

There is a fundamental difference between non-technical users from using Claude, or any other LLM, for whatever reason and whatever they produce being produced into production. There are significant reasons why an organization would not want to use Cowork, because it does not fall under Anthropic's ZDR [0], which is a huge issue for... anyone dealing with anything sensitive. What I think this comes down to is that yo…

This guy's acting in bad faith. Sorry you got swept into this.

Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by wing-_-nuts »

parpfish wrote: post #340
puchatek wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The future is perpetually dealing with the fallout from all the vibe coding as the pool of people who'd have a shot at fixing it gets smaller and smaller. Shitty will be the new normal.

Eventually there will be an incident with bad software at a hospital or bank that leaves some people dead or broke. Then regulators will take things seriously.

Which is why the medical device software industry is so heavily regulated after the Therac-25 incident. Oh, wait, it's not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therac-25

Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by shadowtree »

Odd omission on CRM. They have HubSpot for Campaigns, but basic management of your customers, installed base, sales alignments, opportunities ... nothing there.

SFDC announces "Headless CRM" and Anthropic is like meh.

Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by infecto »

Ucalegon wrote: post #386
infecto wrote: post #363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I concede that I started the thread with a joke but wow you really are upset. Let’s take a step back. Apologies again for that joke it just the entire discussion reads like non-technical non-legal advice you get from the typical corporate IT. Each entity and group have to consider the risks. I don’t think anything you’re trying to point at though is really useful for the discussion at hand. There is absolutely a use…

There is a fundamental difference between non-technical users from using Claude, or any other LLM, for whatever reason and whatever they produce being produced into production. There are significant reasons why an organization would not want to use Cowork, because it does not fall under Anthropic's ZDR [0], which is a huge issue for... anyone dealing with anything sensitive. What I think this comes down to is that yo…

Again you’re raising a bunch of issues that don’t matter in this thread and can only be answered by the specific business groups that are trying to utilize tools like Claude code. They are mostly worthy questions but you are attacking them very specifically and honestly I don’t think relevant to the discussion where someone talked about show the art of possible to people.

Re: Claude for Small Business

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Post by infecto »

caminante wrote: post #394
infecto wrote: post #363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I concede that I started the thread with a joke but wow you really are upset. Let’s take a step back. Apologies again for that joke it just the entire discussion reads like non-technical non-legal advice you get from the typical corporate IT. Each entity and group have to consider the risks. I don’t think anything you’re trying to point at though is really useful for the discussion at hand. There is absolutely a use…

> I concede that I started the thread with a joke but wow you really are upset. You went further than "a joke." You continued making aggressive, non-substantive remarks that were out of line.[0] #1 > you have no idea about the details. #2 > i don’t think you have a grasp what’s going on around you. #3 > What is your deal about contract law? It’s not some mystical thing. You wasted everyone's time. [0] https://news.yc…

If I am wasting your time then stop replying with links to the rules. Like I keep saying you guys are pointing out specific legal questions that only a business can answer and are not constructive to the main thread. Lots of leaps to conclusions and finger pointing which anecdotally aligns with what I have seen in corporate IT.
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