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Re: Cisco workforce reductions

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Post by ribosometronome »

siren2026 wrote: post #61
declan_roberts wrote: post #38

This type of thing should come along with a reduction of allowed H-1bs.

Cisco especially is absolutely full of H1Bs. As someone that has worked for them a decade ago, some of their division are >90% Indian. Those are all good engineers and not dunking on them at all but it should be unacceptable to bring over competing workers on a visa while also laying off so many people.

If a company is set on hiring foreign workers who will work for less than Americans and we don't let them bring them over here, won't they just offshore instead? I don't ask this to be contrarian but more to wonder how to combat it.

Re: Cisco workforce reductions

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Post by stack_framer »

"...fewer than 4,000 jobs, representing less than 5 percent of our total employee base."

I cringe at this attempt to soften the numbers by saying "fewer than" and "less than" here. Conversely, and ironically, it also puts inflated numbers in your head.

"How many people will be axed at Cisco?"

"3,998 ... but at least it's fewer than 4,000!"

Re: Cisco workforce reductions

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Post by AlexB138 »

csomar wrote: post #45
declan_roberts wrote: post #38

This type of thing should come along with a reduction of allowed H-1bs.

I think H1Bs are pretty much dead with the 100k fee.

As I understand it, the fee doesn't apply in many situations and is fairly easy to work around. Apparently it was neutered immediately after being announced.

Re: Cisco workforce reductions

#105

Post by darksim905 »

penguin_booze wrote: post #94

In the past week, we've had: * Build for the future (Cloudflare) * Our path forward (Cisco) What else did we miss?

On and off for the past year or so, the commercials from TD Bank have been

* More Human

as they've slowly laid off people due to the AML fines they've been dealing with in the U.S. and replacing folks with either AI, more Indian/Canadian/Ireland talent.

Re: Cisco workforce reductions

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Post by hirako2000 »

spike021 wrote: post #82
siren2026 wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cisco especially is absolutely full of H1Bs. As someone that has worked for them a decade ago, some of their division are >90% Indian. Those are all good engineers and not dunking on them at all but it should be unacceptable to bring over competing workers on a visa while also laying off so many people.

we were acquired and part of our org moved into cisco HQ. the entire floor were Indian other than our org, and over time our org was filled out with incoming transfers and new hires. i'll never forget some irony in that one of the engineering leaders brought us together for a mini townhall once and praised our "diversity" but by then the percentage of people in the room were basically the same as you described, inclu…

Diversity is the term to disguise cheaper labor. Call it women, ethnic minorities, trans, neuro divergent, on wheelchair, or those having criminal records.

It's a brilliant slogan, not just because virtue signalling, but because it spawns cross cultural factions, all selfishly united to defend it. At no further brainwashing cost to you.

You dare to attack it? You are out. Pack your stuff, and your shame.

Consolation? It would at least provide opportunities to those who always suffered injustice. Yet many who claim their right to a seat don't bother with competence.

It works, because the goal isn't more talents, we never lacked them: it's to pressure the overall labor cost.

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