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Who Trusts Sam Altman?

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Re: Who Trusts Sam Altman?

#11

I do. He is responsible for one of the major breakthroughs in the world. He is as trustworthy as Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, or Bill Gates is. Remember, they are playing the game of Business. The rules of the game are different than say rules of scientific breakthroughs.

I uh... well, I agree with your last sentence.

Re: Who Trusts Sam Altman?

#12

I do. He is responsible for one of the major breakthroughs in the world. He is as trustworthy as Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, or Bill Gates is. Remember, they are playing the game of Business. The rules of the game are different than say rules of scientific breakthroughs.

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Re: Who Trusts Sam Altman?

#13

I do. He is responsible for one of the major breakthroughs in the world. He is as trustworthy as Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, or Bill Gates is. Remember, they are playing the game of Business. The rules of the game are different than say rules of scientific breakthroughs.

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that the scientists and researchers are responsible for the breakthroughs?

Re: Who Trusts Sam Altman?

#14

I do. He is responsible for one of the major breakthroughs in the world. He is as trustworthy as Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, or Bill Gates is. Remember, they are playing the game of Business. The rules of the game are different than say rules of scientific breakthroughs.

So because he is responsible for a breakthrough he de facto becomes a trustworthy person? How does that connect?

Re: Who Trusts Sam Altman?

#15
post #5

Nobody should.

I'm getting so sick of all the gaslighting about whether or not it's even a valid question. The guy is so obviously a habitual and pernicious liar and then he weasels out of things like, "teeeeechnically I didn't say that, hee-heeeeee" and it's over and over again like we're some kind of drooling idiot character in a story about a malicious genie granting wishes that ultimately come back to bite us in the ass, except I have nothing to do with it and yet my CEO might still listen to this asshole and fire half the staff.

The best anyone can say is, "but mah AI" and can't refute that he is one of the weaseliest, sheistiest characters they've ever seen, but refuse to say anything out of fear of losing their Technojesus come to save them from the fact they never did bother to learn how to invert a binary tree and are just waiting for the world to discover that their imposter syndrome isn't just a psychological anxiety hangup, it's for real.

Re: Who Trusts Sam Altman?

#16

I do. He is responsible for one of the major breakthroughs in the world. He is as trustworthy as Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, or Bill Gates is. Remember, they are playing the game of Business. The rules of the game are different than say rules of scientific breakthroughs.

I uh... well, I agree with your last sentence.

I suspect this might be a case of Poe's Law.

Re: Who Trusts Sam Altman?

#18
post #12

I do. He is responsible for one of the major breakthroughs in the world. He is as trustworthy as Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, or Bill Gates is. Remember, they are playing the game of Business. The rules of the game are different than say rules of scientific breakthroughs.

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Didn't Melinda Gates ultimately divorce him because he tried to sneak antibiotics into her food to cure the Chlamydia he gave her after he contracted it from a Russian hooker on Epstein's Island?

Re: Who Trusts Sam Altman?

#19

I've never trusted him, mostly because I find that — in all walks of life — the people sitting atop a pile of billions of other people most likely had to cheat in pretty heinous ways in order to get there.

This is common rhetoric that feels overly reductionist and makes me sad. Sam got fired and his response was to manipulate and pressure his employees into a shameful, cult-like letter, and play the media to character assassinate Toner as being underqualified and stupid.

His biggest competitor asks people in the interview process if they’d be willing to give up their Anthropic stock for the good of society.

Surely you cannot just close your eyes and say they’re the same. Don’t allow evil to roam free under the guise of merely “imperfection”.

Re: Who Trusts Sam Altman?

#20
CEOs are hired to run companies and make themselves, and their investors, wealthy. That is their prime directive and CEOs are the ultimate partisans.

If a CEO feels that bending the truth, or outright lying, will advance the prime directive – then that is what they will do. Applying adjectives like "honest" or "untrustworthy" to them is a category error. Altman will say whatever benefits OpenAI, full stop. Musk will say whatever benefits his interests, full stop.

CEOs can't be good or bad people in a moral sense, or have the best interests of society at heart. (Despite what they may try to convey.) Better to think of them as automatons carrying out well-defined, and ultimately simple, goals.

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