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Re: Haiku

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Post by Fuzzbit »

eloisant wrote: post #43
ttul wrote: post #10

It's a shame that Be failed. I think they were a victim of Microsoft's aggressive anti-competitive activities in the late-1990s, combined with Apple deciding to bring back Steve Jobs via the acquisition of NeXT (making Apple a serious competitor in the same segment that Be was targeting -- multimedia and realtime applications). Ultimately, they prevailed in winning about $24M from Microsoft, but that was after the co…

Be was pretty close from being acquired by Apple instead of NeXT. It was also founded by an ex-Apple employee (Jean-Louis Gassée). MacOSX would be really different today if it were based on BeOS instead of NeXT...

I strongly suspect Apple wouldn't be here had they picked Be.

What NeXT brought was exceptional developer tools, not to mention Steve Jobs.

No Steve Jobs likely would have meant no iPod, iPhone, etc.

Re: Haiku

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Post by microtonal »

eloisant wrote: post #43
ttul wrote: post #10

It's a shame that Be failed. I think they were a victim of Microsoft's aggressive anti-competitive activities in the late-1990s, combined with Apple deciding to bring back Steve Jobs via the acquisition of NeXT (making Apple a serious competitor in the same segment that Be was targeting -- multimedia and realtime applications). Ultimately, they prevailed in winning about $24M from Microsoft, but that was after the co…

Be was pretty close from being acquired by Apple instead of NeXT. It was also founded by an ex-Apple employee (Jean-Louis Gassée). MacOSX would be really different today if it were based on BeOS instead of NeXT...

Probably much worse. First because (and I say this is a BeOS fan at the time) it was a single-user system without much security. Second, because it's likely that Apple would have sunk further without Steve Jobs.

Re: Haiku

#63

Post by electroly »

bacchusracine wrote: post #54

I tried for years to get this operating system to run on my hardware. Last year I succeeded. Only...there was no software. The system ran beautifully. But I had no web browser that was supported. All the software seemed to be ports from Linux and didn't seem to take advantage of Haiku's advantages. I had a good speedy operating system that booted almost immediately to the desktop. But nothing to do when I got there.…

I think you're directionally right but the bit about the web browser confused me. Haiku ships with WebPositive. You'll remember NetPositive from the R5 days. That's one of the few things Haiku does have.

Re: Haiku

#64

Post by pedrogpimenta »

rebolek wrote: post #59
bacchusracine wrote: post #54

I tried for years to get this operating system to run on my hardware. Last year I succeeded. Only...there was no software. The system ran beautifully. But I had no web browser that was supported. All the software seemed to be ports from Linux and didn't seem to take advantage of Haiku's advantages. I had a good speedy operating system that booted almost immediately to the desktop. But nothing to do when I got there.…

Not my experience. I tried to install on an old Asus Eee and everything worked on first try. There's a web browser (Web Positive) that works good enough given the available resources on this machine. The system itself runs very nicely on this hardware. I tried to install Linux there first but I wasn't able to find any 32 but distro with GUI that would fit on 4GB eMMC. Now I have a neat small machine that supports wha…

What do you do with it? Genuinely curious!

Re: Haiku

#65

Post by HerbManic »

bacchusracine wrote: post #54

I tried for years to get this operating system to run on my hardware. Last year I succeeded. Only...there was no software. The system ran beautifully. But I had no web browser that was supported. All the software seemed to be ports from Linux and didn't seem to take advantage of Haiku's advantages. I had a good speedy operating system that booted almost immediately to the desktop. But nothing to do when I got there.…

As of a year ago there was an up to date Firefox port, not sure if they kept it up to date however.

Re: Haiku

#66

Post by bsaul »

wondering : apart from the aesthetics, is there still some technology from beos that would be still considered an improvement compared to what today's OS provide ?

Re: Haiku

#67

Post by cestith »

fragmede wrote: post #35
jesperwe wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how they implement is_computer_on() under Linux? ( https://www.haiku-os.org/legacy-docs/bebook/TheKernelKit_Sys... )

on fire > The following functions, types, and structures are used to convey basic information about the system, such as the number of CPUs, when the kernel was built, what time it is now and whether your computer is on fire.

That’s sometimes a handy diagnostic if it’s a remote, headless system.

Re: Haiku

#68

Post by HerbManic »

ttul wrote: post #10

It's a shame that Be failed. I think they were a victim of Microsoft's aggressive anti-competitive activities in the late-1990s, combined with Apple deciding to bring back Steve Jobs via the acquisition of NeXT (making Apple a serious competitor in the same segment that Be was targeting -- multimedia and realtime applications). Ultimately, they prevailed in winning about $24M from Microsoft, but that was after the co…

To that last point, they do not accept any AI code to be used in the project.

I get it, many times I have seen stuff that is function all but very slow, considering Haiku can run fine on a Pentium 2, I can see why they wouldn't want that.

Re: Haiku

#69

Post by r14c »

shevy-java wrote: post #16

The problem with Haiku is that it is unable to leave the perpetual beta situation. On Linux I can use perl, ruby, python, php, julia - you name it. Good luck thinking you can do this on Haiku, as-is. Edit: I should say that I like Haiku, but I used it many years ago, and the situation with regards to programming still has barely improved here for the most part. They are building literally a dream OS nobody will serio…

Sometimes a project is largely whimsy and I don't think that's a bad thing. People don't "seriously" use 9front either, it kinda exists because there's a group of people who just want to make a unique thing.

I do somewhat agree on the beta label issue, but I would just put up a ymmv warning label and call it a day.

Re: Haiku

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Post by HerbManic »

SyneRyder wrote: post #38
bananaflag wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry for being negative here: What is the motivation for recreating Be? What would you hope to obtain that you cannot just by using, say, a customized Linux Mint? If it's just historical/nostalgia/challenge, I get it. But people seem to believe there is something else too, and I'd like to know what that is.

> What would you hope to obtain that you cannot just by using, say, a customized Linux Mint? When things are coded right, Haiku / BeOS is blazing fast (every single thing runs in a separate thread), and resource usage is tiny. I think the OS only uses about half a gig of RAM? When the apps are coded right, there's a feeling that this is how our modern computers could have been, free from bloated software and using th…

I have said that Haiku feels like it is simultaneously in the year 2040 and 2000. I glimpse from the past of a future we didn't get.
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