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Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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This looks to be a clone of the prior state of the repository that caused all the Bambu drama earlier this week. I did a ton of research because I didn't understand what people wanted here, and this is what's going on: Right now, Bambu have adjusted their system into two modalities: * "default" or "Cloud" mode, where you get an app, remote monitoring, but you have to use Bambu Studio or Bambu Connect to send prints.…

There is some context missing, which this video [0] explains. tl;dr: The original developer does not (or cannot) go into legal battle with Bambu Lab, so Louis Rossmann's project picked up the fight and hosts the (allegedly) troublesome code on their organization. As they have more financial resources, they look forward to the C&D letter. The point he has (and I agree with that): The original developer is using the un…

The code in question for anyone curious, https://github.com/FULU-Foundation/OrcaSlicer-bambulab

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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https://www.fulu.org/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jhRqgHxEP8

That’s a vibe coded AI slop website if I’ve ever seen one. It even has a careers page that they didn’t try to edit out. There’s basically no information there. Is this just a copy of the other GitHub repo that was removed and someone is trying to rebrand it as their own? Or did they do some different work?

https://github.com/FULU-Foundation/OrcaSlicer-bambulab

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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post #64

What is Bambu’s motivation here? What do they get for damaging their credibility like this? Just usage data? Training a model on everyone’s STL files?

Probably regulations, there are a few states trying to make it illegal for felons to own 3D printers by EOY. These things are about to get regulated like firearms, which is wild.

Very wild indeed. Its governments trying to regulate & ban math and code lol which is thankfully impossible.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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They threatened legal action against the author of a fork of their AGPL'd software merely for distributing said fork.

That they are. However, that's abusing the developer, not the AGPL.

I disagree. They’re redistributing software under the AGPL while trying to prevent others from using the same freedoms they’ve been granted by the license.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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> if you sell a device with a certain functionality and you later modify that device later to remove that functionality that is called theft. It could be argued that it is not theft by various devious uses of legalise¹. Personally I'd go with calling it, at best, deceptive sales practices (on the assumption that they knew they'd be moving this way long before they did), or possibly outright fraud if I'm in a less gen…

Yeah I’m so tired of rhetorical games people play. It’s a shitty business practice, it is deceptive and possibly false advertising, it may be violation of a contract and / consumer production laws, but removal of a software feature is not “theft”. And many of these same people probably (and rightfully) laughed at music and movie people casting piracy as “theft”.

When you sell something and then after the sell you take away the very thing you sold — that you no longer own — from the person who now owns it, that is called theft. You are taking something away from someone that they own. Piracy is not theft because you do not take anything away from anyone, you copy it and do not pay for it, but the original is still there. No one lost anything.

It is irrelevant whether the thing or feature you took away is implemented in hardware or software. Notably it is often hardware functionality but the thief uses software to restrict it.

You could perhaps argue that another property crime might better describe it such as criminal mischief or in some cases fraud. But in any case it is a crime against someone else's property.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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It's maddening that quite a few people are jumping to defend Bambu here. Principally if you sell a device with a certain functionality and you later modify that device later to remove that functionality that is called theft. It does not matter the slightest bit whether you break into someone's house to physically alter the device or whether you remotely install a malicious software update to do that. But what's even…

> It's maddening that quite a few people are jumping to defend Bambu here. I haven’t read each of the hundreds of comments, but I haven’t seen anyone defending Bambu really. What I have seen is a lot of comments trying to correct all of the bad information, which might look like defending Bambu labs to those who came into this thread not understanding what the problem was. Many of the angry comments think that this i…

Thank you! This is why I have a very mixed opinion of Louis Rossmann. His heart seems to be in the right place, but he provides extremely slanted view of reality.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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> whether users can keep using hardware they already own without depending on a vendor cloud path. That’s a complete misunderstanding of the current state of affairs. Bambu didn’t take away local network support, and you can use any Bambu printer without any cloud or internet connection. What you can’t do is use a 3rd party slicer with their cloud servers…

Just letting you know, you replied to an LLM account.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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I'm still pretty sour that they removed the ability to self-host the NVR and you have to use their cloud solution now.

You’re talking about when you used to be able to run Unifi Video on your own distro? Yeah that was good, but you definitely don’t have to “use their cloud solution” for NVR now; you buy the box, the video is stored on the box.

Yeah you used to be able to run unifi video on your own hardware. Now you have to use their box and access it through their cloud. I had notifications working in the self-hosted version with VPN.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the really important part of this is that Pawel modified OrcaSlicer to look like BambuStudio by looking at the AGPL licensed source code of BambuStudio and copying it over. And the function he copied over just set the UserAgent string to some hard coded values also available in the AGPL source code of BambuStudio. He didn't reverse engineer anything. Just went and looked at public code that's free to use for…

Yeah they're argument is based on saying that sniffing a user agent string is illegal reverse engineering. If they get the right 100 year old judge they might even succeed but it feels like a thoroughly lame argument to me.

Not even sniffing - no special action need be taken, simply looking at the code which they are legally obligated to provide is sufficient.

It's like putting up a sign that says "No trespassing, unless you know the secret code word, which is 'Stegosaurus'".

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