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Re: Starship V3

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Grifter gonna grift

Still waiting on these 2014 fully self driving cars, back when Uber promised to buy every single model S they could produce.

Now he's late on his mars promises so he's pushing some new bullshit timeline.

Re: Starship V3

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You can put computers underground. Cheaper than launching into space. Why put them in space? Power? We have that on earth.

There are literally enormous problems powering AI data centers on the Earth right now. No, we don't have the power on Earth. In terms of launch cost, Starship makes launch cost negligible. Some estimates are that it will cost less to launch a tonne to orbit, than to ship across the US by train. Even if this figure is slightly low, that has nothing compared to the cost of real estate, construction costs, all of the bu…

>In terms of launch cost, Starship makes launch cost negligible. Some estimates are that it will cost less to launch a tonne to orbit, than to ship across the US by train.

So in this world vision obviously companies will start shipping iron ore and coal by starship from one coast to the other because it will be cheaper than trains. In fact all trucking worldwide would be replaced by space ships because they would be cheaper than trucks by far. I can't see how it will ever be cheaper to build a literal space ship and launch it than to put stuff on a train. This all reads like some super optimistic early 50's scifi.

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All share price fundamentals are based on the long term. Short term trading is why some shares are very briefly high or low.

Well, at least that is what they teach you in college when you learn about the efficient market hypothesis. In reality, investors are getting less rational every year. The modern stock market has become pretty much decoupled from reality.

"Everyone is crazy" is a well-measured stance that I can respect. /s

On a serious note, if you think that everyone else loses contact with reality, it's a signal to check and recheck your assumptions.

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They mean, to attempt things that seem very difficult to normies like you and me, and be successful at it, one needs to be insane.

I think Elon Musk is quite literally the living example of what high agency lifesytle would look like. One could argue he likely knew way less than your day job rocket scientist or battery experts when he started out. But these people believe so as long something is not impossible by known physics it is doable, and hence there is a way to get it done. And then they do it. That is you wake up everyday, and do whatever…

I think you mean "luck"

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Almost any average factory floor in the U.S. has an American flag hanging somewhere. Sorry Europe doesn't have any pride in itself!

I don't think showing a flag is a sign of pride, and as I watch the news it is currently a very misplaced pride in America.

Your biggest problem is watching the news. It is designed to make you angry. Meanwhile, I've never been prouder to be American.

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These datacenters in space will become space junk. Doesn't seem to be sustainable. With a million of these it's hard to imagine why this would be a good idea, and it starts looking like insanity.

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Beyond aggressively optimistic timelines, I find it difficult to disagree with the premise. The aggressively optimistic timelines is also what makes it feasible to even attempt these things, where e.g. the amount of iteration required for Starship would have broken most other companies. > In the long term, space-based AI is obviously the only way to scale. In the long term - all mass and energy available is outside o…

> In the long term In case anyone is wondering how Tesla’s stock price remain wildly detached from its business reality, keep these four words in mind. If you can convince people that anything about you and your business has to be evaluated on a literally astronomical timescale, you can justify any valuation you desire, because your believers will give you infinite time to realize their investment returns. It has not…

> believers

If it were only retail investors, your assumptions could make sense.

However plenty of the share ownership is institutional investors. Most of them care a bit more about fundamentals. (I'm ignoring passive investors just using indexes).

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These datacenters in space will become space junk. Doesn't seem to be sustainable. With a million of these it's hard to imagine why this would be a good idea, and it starts looking like insanity.

Nope, they will be in a low earth orbit that will decay and enter the atmosphere without maintenance burns

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The model 3 was Elons last great idea (if it was even his). Since then, he has been wrong pretty much about everything. Its to the point where anything he says is guaranteed to be wrong just on the merit that its coming out of his mouth.

Starlink?

Starlink wasn't technically Musks, Space X acquired a few companies IIRC. It also was developed around 2016, before Musk went crazy.
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