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Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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It is my right to do with my printer whatever I want.

The hardware yes. Bambu's software, not quite. If you want to flash it with 3rd party firmware & use 3rd party slicers, have at it. If you want to use Bambu's software against their TOS, OK you wouldn't be alone in that, but there's no moral high ground in it.

Its the people's software though, used under AGPL by Bambu. It never was Bambu's software.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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Sure there is. When purchased, it was able to do something. Due to an update, the customer has now been misled, because a feature was removed. In most countries, that would violate consumer rights. There's an ethics argument here.

That's a highly creative interpretation of events. The software license agreement usually upfront covers what can or cannot not change. It is pretty rare in most countries to see successful legal action for changed features, but best of luck.

The license agreement being the AGPLv3?

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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I considered buying bambu lab A1, bout watching this and previous dramas I rather go with different vendor. Are there any good alternatives for newcomers? I like hacker nature and openness of Prusa, but I’m worried if it is good printer as a first one…

it honestly depends on your budget. prusa is definitely overpriced for what you get. but, i bought one anyway specifically because of their stance on OSS, and this kind of bullshit the bambu is pulling. even though bambu objectively has a better or at least equal product for significantly less money.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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> This isn't actually possible This is only true due to a firmware they pushed last year. It's an artificial limit. There's no reason at all a local client couldn't just talk to a local printer without any cloud. Every problem BambuLabs have here is self-inflicted. They could allow simultaneous cloud and local queue management with or without authentication.

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Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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It is my right to do with my printer whatever I want.

The hardware yes. Bambu's software, not quite. If you want to flash it with 3rd party firmware & use 3rd party slicers, have at it. If you want to use Bambu's software against their TOS, OK you wouldn't be alone in that, but there's no moral high ground in it.

ESL? look up the definition of the word moral

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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Just make sure never, ever to buy from them again. It's the same story as Synology with their forced reliance on specific hard drives. As long as there are still other providers out there...

Synology works with any hard drive. I bought a new unit and installed WD drives in it. No issues.

They did revert this because of public backlash:

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/10/synology-caves-walks...

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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post #170

I considered buying bambu lab A1, bout watching this and previous dramas I rather go with different vendor. Are there any good alternatives for newcomers? I like hacker nature and openness of Prusa, but I’m worried if it is good printer as a first one…

it honestly depends on your budget. prusa is definitely overpriced for what you get. but, i bought one anyway specifically because of their stance on OSS, and this kind of bullshit the bambu is pulling. even though bambu objectively has a better or at least equal product for significantly less money.

You have to consider that you do not own the product from bambu.

So to say you spend significantly less money for a product that will be changed whenever bambu sees fit to whatever extend they see fit.

I regret my bambu purchase a lot. I have to keep up with all the ways bambu wants to lock in my hardware and take it basically away from me.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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post #170

I considered buying bambu lab A1, bout watching this and previous dramas I rather go with different vendor. Are there any good alternatives for newcomers? I like hacker nature and openness of Prusa, but I’m worried if it is good printer as a first one…

I've only had one Prusa printer, a MINI+ and it's been an absolute workhorse and easy to repair using the official instructions (I assembled my unit myself and pulled a zip-tie too tight, which caused the part cooling fan cable to break). You do pay a premium. I, personally, also found PrusaSlicer to have better presets and usability than OrcaSlicer or it's forks.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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post #170

I considered buying bambu lab A1, bout watching this and previous dramas I rather go with different vendor. Are there any good alternatives for newcomers? I like hacker nature and openness of Prusa, but I’m worried if it is good printer as a first one…

I got a second hand Prusa Mk3s about a year ago as my first printer, around 300 € perhaps. I'm still enjoying it a lot, even though I'm now eyeing one of their upcoming (more expensive) models.

I think it depends mostly on how you expect to use it. There may be alternatives that give you perfect prints with minimal fuzz. But for me it was great to have a machine I dare play around with. Like getting a tractor before a race car :)

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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> whether users can keep using hardware they already own without depending on a vendor cloud path. That’s a complete misunderstanding of the current state of affairs. Bambu didn’t take away local network support, and you can use any Bambu printer without any cloud or internet connection. What you can’t do is use a 3rd party slicer with their cloud servers…

> Bambu didn’t take away local network support

Yes they did. Chronology is important because it speaks to their motives. First they blocked Orca slicer and others from connecting to the printer even when the printer is running in LAN-only mode. Due to extensive backlash they later split "LAN mode" into "Standard mode LAN mode" and "Developer mode LAN mode".

The former, officially recommended, "secure" mode would prevent Orca slicer and others from using the printer.

"Developer mode LAN mode" dropped all form of access control (including existing access code + serial number pairing mechanism), leaving users completely exposed - any device on your network, and any process on your machine can freely take control of the printer. They simultaneously absolved themselves of all customer support responsibilities for anyone using this mode.

They also abandoned all work on features and bugs related to LAN mode (whether they affect standard mode or developer mode). Bambu Slicer is plagued by basic connectivity and usability issues that only affect LAN mode, feature parity is not there and there's been quite literally zero activity on any of the issues I've been following.

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