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Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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It is my right to do with my printer whatever I want.

The hardware yes. Bambu's software, not quite. If you want to flash it with 3rd party firmware & use 3rd party slicers, have at it. If you want to use Bambu's software against their TOS, OK you wouldn't be alone in that, but there's no moral high ground in it.

> If specific terms in a contract are unfair, they are not binding on you and the trader may not rely on them.

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/consumers/unfair-treat...

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

#162

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It is my right to do with my printer whatever I want.

The hardware yes. Bambu's software, not quite. If you want to flash it with 3rd party firmware & use 3rd party slicers, have at it. If you want to use Bambu's software against their TOS, OK you wouldn't be alone in that, but there's no moral high ground in it.

There's absolutely a moral high ground in it. That's the point.

Nobody is arguing against Bambu's legal right to be arseholes.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

#163

Just make sure never, ever to buy from them again. It's the same story as Synology with their forced reliance on specific hard drives. As long as there are still other providers out there...

Synology works with any hard drive. I bought a new unit and installed WD drives in it. No issues.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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The ACCC is more than happy to explain unenforceable terms, if you'd like to do business with Australia. Feel free to consult Steam, Google, Meta and others, if a software license is enough to ignore consumer rights.

Australia is a small enough market to not matter much

The only place you can change contracts at will on the company side is the US, and even there it probably depends on the state.

This kind of firmware update to remotely disable feature is also illegal in the EU

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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I’ve been running mine offline for years, I don’t know why other people haven’t been. They’re the only competent and reliable printer that isn’t a project car in itself, but they’re obviously not completely trustworthy. Easily fixed with an air gap, updates work just great from a USB drive.

They are an adversarial player in the market, actively trying to lock users into an ecosystem that is incompatible with other printers. Like Adobe's 'creative' software and Onshape, they are working as hard as possible to make YOU pay more to have less.

As long as Onshape let THEIR servers work for MY public projects for free I don't see how your "make YOU pay more" statement applies.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

#166

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It is my right to do with my printer whatever I want.

The hardware yes. Bambu's software, not quite. If you want to flash it with 3rd party firmware & use 3rd party slicers, have at it. If you want to use Bambu's software against their TOS, OK you wouldn't be alone in that, but there's no moral high ground in it.

Isn't their software based on AGPL'd code?

If so, then yes, the software too

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

#167

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A comment defending abusive software terms on a website called HackerNews. Something amusing about that.

If we go a little meta, there's a lot of comments doing the same thing, on plethora of submissions. It's amusing and sad at the same time.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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post #115

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The ACCC is more than happy to explain unenforceable terms, if you'd like to do business with Australia. Feel free to consult Steam, Google, Meta and others, if a software license is enough to ignore consumer rights.

Australia is a small enough market to not matter much

A small, more ethical company filling the void Bambu Lab left can grow much faster and eat into Bambu's market share in a relatively short time.

Yes, it's not as simple as that, but it's not that impossible either.

Re: Restore full BambuNetwork support for Bambu Lab printers

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On our Bambu H2D Pro printers at work, we can print in cloud mode and LAN mode at the same time. Bambu literally has this firmware built but they reserve it for “pro” users. The other thing pro users can do is disable cloud without any developer mode stuff. Of course we do this. Excellent machines by the way, primarily let down by the proprietary binary Bambu forces users to use for LAN mode which is extremely buggy…

I think the enterprise “LAN Mode” is actually the thing this repo is emulating / replacing, which the consumer printers (might?) also support, where the cloud auth token is still in play but prints are (ostensibly, in a much more difficult to audit way given the client still needs access to the Bambu servers) sent directly to the printer. Developer mode doesn’t require the proprietary binary.

There's no technical hurdle to achieving both modes or access types (local and cloud) simultaneously. This isn't a technical issue. Selling "Home" and "Pro" devices that are differentiated is also not necessarily a problem, a company is allowed to sell two products with different features and pricing.

There are two problems here. One is when the manufacturer sells something with some capabilities and later pulls the rug from under the users and decides to arbitrarily take some features away. This should entitle any customer to take an arbitrary amount of money back from the manufacturer. The second problem is that after a customer buys the product they aren't allowed to own it. If I buy a hammer I'm, allowed to cut it open, dissect everything, modify the handle or the head. That's ownership, not some shallow dismissal that user want to "have their cake and eat it too".

If someone sells you a cake then follows you down the street to take the frosting and one of the layers back, and tells you that any attempt to restore the cake is a crime, you'd start questioning whether it's really your cake to begin with, and what exactly are you eating.

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