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The Rise of the Bullshittery

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Re: The Rise of the Bullshittery

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Post by nickff »

sublinear wrote: post #80
Aurornis wrote: post #53

> If you want to see the cleanest expression of this, the place to look is LinkedIn. It's funny how easily you can convince people that social media is not real life. Those influencers posting content 24/7 are a minority of people putting on a show, not a reflection of the real world. It's such an obvious feature of social media. But when the topic changes to LinkedIn they completely forget that. They act like the Li…

I increasingly feel the same about the comment quality of HN in recent years. There are three topics that inevitably get injected into every discussion: AI, politics, and nostalgia. The thing is, I don't understand the goal. This isn't reddit. Few people on here are that broke, uneducated, or impressionable. This site is also deliberately designed to not reward any interaction.

HN has definitely experienced a marked decline in quality over the last 15 years, (since the account I am currently posting from has existed,) I know this sort of remark is discouraged by the guidelines, but the trend is substantial enough that it cannot be ignored. I don't think users have any specific goal, but they are indeed posting the same inane drivel and joke comments as Reddit, notably including the classic (and idiotic) 'I mis-read/misunderstood the submission title X as Y hahah'.

Re: The Rise of the Bullshittery

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Post by Aurornis »

dataviz1000 wrote: post #73
Aurornis wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having a LinkedIn profile and doomscrolling the LinkedIn feed are two entirely separate activities. Most people create a profile and update it when they're job searching, but they don't visit LinkedIn or interact with the feed at all.

I'm getting old. I miss the good ol' days when they would look at my resume, call the places to make sure I worked there, and invite me in to prove I know the skills that I put on my resume.

You can apply to a job without a LinkedIn if you want. You don't need a LinkedIn profile. I still get resumes without one.

The benefit of a LinkedIn profile is that I have something I can easily share around to teams or other hiring managers that provides an easy overview of the person in a format they're familiar with.

Re: The Rise of the Bullshittery

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Post by lovich »

fny wrote: post #77
CobrastanJorji wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine that you decide that you would like to try farming, and you buy some geese. One of the geese, for whatever reason, begins to lay golden eggs. Your little farm is now unbelievably profitable. It is as profitable as your thousand closest neighboring farms combined. So naturally, you hire guards for the goose and experts on golden geese veterinary science to make sure that the goose is fed and healthy and is max…

The responsible alternative to not going is to return capital to your share holders who can then do the goose hunting themselves, and management should in invest their personal stock into other companies. For very human reasons, they thing they have a better chance of finding the goose themselves.

Does R&D have to have a guaranteed ROI in your view or do allow for speculative research that may not pan out?

Re: The Rise of the Bullshittery

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Post by jareklupinski »

CobrastanJorji wrote: post #71
the_42nd wrote: post #19

Using a throwaway for this comment, but my first experience with this kind of thing was in 2013 when I joined a major international company with over 100k employees worldwide and realized that there were entire departments and organizations dedicated to delivering no value at all. Departments with 100s of people, with middle managers making several times the average salary in my country, where after years of work not…

Imagine that you decide that you would like to try farming, and you buy some geese. One of the geese, for whatever reason, begins to lay golden eggs. Your little farm is now unbelievably profitable. It is as profitable as your thousand closest neighboring farms combined. So naturally, you hire guards for the goose and experts on golden geese veterinary science to make sure that the goose is fed and healthy and is max…

> One of the geese, for whatever reason, begins to lay golden eggs. Your little farm is now unbelievably profitable.

how? the value of gold plummets the instant that the market learns that the stuff literally comes out of rear ends

Re: The Rise of the Bullshittery

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Post by eikenberry »

sosodev wrote: post #74
eikenberry wrote: post #45

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Everyone knows this is true of every large enterprise shop and is one of the reasons that wall street rewards layoffs.

If Wall Street was so wise they would only reward meaningful layoffs. Laying off 10% of a company by stack ranking every team accomplishes nothing. Particularly if the company just hires the same number of cut people next quarter. If a tree has a dead branch, you cut it off. Cutting off 10% of the leaves evenly distributed among branches will remove some dead leaves, but it leaves the source of the problems unaddress…

Most short term changes with stocks like this are wholly irrational and have very little to do with accomplishing anything other than signalling.

Re: The Rise of the Bullshittery

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Post by john_strinlai »

jareklupinski wrote: post #95
CobrastanJorji wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Imagine that you decide that you would like to try farming, and you buy some geese. One of the geese, for whatever reason, begins to lay golden eggs. Your little farm is now unbelievably profitable. It is as profitable as your thousand closest neighboring farms combined. So naturally, you hire guards for the goose and experts on golden geese veterinary science to make sure that the goose is fed and healthy and is max…

> One of the geese, for whatever reason, begins to lay golden eggs. Your little farm is now unbelievably profitable. how? the value of gold plummets the instant that the market learns that the stuff literally comes out of rear ends

well, mainly, because its an illustrative parable and not reality.

Re: The Rise of the Bullshittery

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Post by l33tbro »

nickff wrote: post #91
sublinear wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I increasingly feel the same about the comment quality of HN in recent years. There are three topics that inevitably get injected into every discussion: AI, politics, and nostalgia. The thing is, I don't understand the goal. This isn't reddit. Few people on here are that broke, uneducated, or impressionable. This site is also deliberately designed to not reward any interaction.

HN has definitely experienced a marked decline in quality over the last 15 years, (since the account I am currently posting from has existed,) I know this sort of remark is discouraged by the guidelines, but the trend is substantial enough that it cannot be ignored. I don't think users have any specific goal, but they are indeed posting the same inane drivel and joke comments as Reddit, notably including the classic…

Downvote the bots and morons aggressively. Our only salve.

Re: The Rise of the Bullshittery

#99

Post by dataviz1000 »

Aurornis wrote: post #92
dataviz1000 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm getting old. I miss the good ol' days when they would look at my resume, call the places to make sure I worked there, and invite me in to prove I know the skills that I put on my resume.

You can apply to a job without a LinkedIn if you want. You don't need a LinkedIn profile. I still get resumes without one. The benefit of a LinkedIn profile is that I have something I can easily share around to teams or other hiring managers that provides an easy overview of the person in a format they're familiar with.

> an easy overview of the person in a format they're familiar with

The job websites are requiring a linkedin profile in order to submit an application. I had one interview and the guy sounded like a linkedin stream. So I thought about updating mine. I was immediately hit with political propaganda. From the point of view of an established company, it is a test that the person is willing to conform to social standards. It is the modern equivalent of wearing a tie to an interview.

Re: The Rise of the Bullshittery

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Post by smitty1e »

This is among the valid complaints that can be leveled at public most public figures.

While I understand the need to be flexible, and Sun Tzu certainly preached deception as a weapon, ambiguity sucks in politics.

Not a partisan point. The new thing seems to be "say whatever is needful" during the campaign, and then just run amok when sworn in.

It's swell if you agree, and hell if you don't, with the decisions.

No matter how pro-state you are the US National debt, Uncle Sam's prostate, cannot enlarge forever.

Possibly some sobriety will be forced upon us.

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