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Re: Googlebook

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Post by throwfish3000 »

frevib wrote: post #266
arjie wrote: post #83

I imagine they're going to do the same thing with this as with Chromebooks: i.e. do enterprise deals with schools and so on? Google's iteration-style structure where they kill products is fine for SaaS type offerings that are free and that you don't build your world around, but buying a laptop they won't support soon enough isn't that useful. Ultimately, just like with Amazon and their phone, it's obvious even prior…

Please not the schools. We don’t need privacy-invading closed systems with built-in slot machines. We need deterministic open systems where kids’ privacy is protected. Please not schools…

Chromebooks that run on Google services are already the default 1:1 device in schools. They're cheap, they take a beating and have good battery life.

Re: Googlebook

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Post by garethsprice »

Raed667 wrote: post #70

Off topic i know but, who goes from SF to Tokyo for a 6 day "vintage shopping trip" ? Who do they think their audience is here?

Another perspective from the posters saying "rich people"; in most advertising, it is aimed at aspiration and not reality - so "people who want to be rich leisure class people, or social media influencers", which tracks for a low-end laptop for a younger phone-native audience.

Advertising aimed at the actually rich is usually more about saving time, "elevated" experiences, or building legacy.

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Post by sigmoid10 »

BakeInBeens wrote: post #111
arjie wrote: post #83

I imagine they're going to do the same thing with this as with Chromebooks: i.e. do enterprise deals with schools and so on? Google's iteration-style structure where they kill products is fine for SaaS type offerings that are free and that you don't build your world around, but buying a laptop they won't support soon enough isn't that useful. Ultimately, just like with Amazon and their phone, it's obvious even prior…

I'd imagine they'll mimic the Chromebook ten year support guarantee, at minimum the eight year guarantee on phones and it'll probably extend to Asus, Dell, HP, and Lenovo models. Shipping enterprise desktop hardware with AI integrated features will likely be a priority to improve the cloud footprint amongst fortune 500.

The EU Cyber Resilience Act already requires updates for at least five years (or the life expectancy of the product) after the last unit was sold. So if they sell them for 5 years, they're barely keeping up with the law. On top of that, there are already voices pushing for mandatory 15 years of support.

Re: Googlebook

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Post by Centigonal »

What in the Microsoft Surface is this? Are they trying to frame a life-long dependency on Google's LLMs as a feature?

Also, I find it funny that they have burned through the "chromebook" and "pixelbook" branding already, leaving them with the less snappy "googlebook." Not sure if the third time's the charm here.

Re: Googlebook

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Post by siva7 »

arjie wrote: post #83

I imagine they're going to do the same thing with this as with Chromebooks: i.e. do enterprise deals with schools and so on? Google's iteration-style structure where they kill products is fine for SaaS type offerings that are free and that you don't build your world around, but buying a laptop they won't support soon enough isn't that useful. Ultimately, just like with Amazon and their phone, it's obvious even prior…

What are they trying to gain with this product? Financial incentives obviously won't be the reason as this can only be a loss leader. They have zero chance competing against Apple in the entry market after Apple introduced the neo and obviously no chance in the lucrative premium market against the Apple.

Re: Googlebook

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Post by fragmede »

julianozen wrote: post #199

I’m not sure I understand the customer use case for this. 1- Chromebooks have made huge inroads in schools because they’re easy to maintain, share, upgrade, and they’re very cheap. 2- Obviously, running desktop software is a huge new piece of the ecosystem, but isn’t this customer already opting for Windows/Mac, who have extremely robust 30-year ecosystems and suites like Office, iLife, Adobe, etc that will obviously…

There's now a Photoshop web, and Google has their own office suite. Canva and Figma are websites. iLife is discontinued. Are there specific things in "etc" that you're thinking of? Davinci Resolve and Blender are available for Linux and thus Crostini on a Chromebook/Googlebook. ChromeOS came out in 2011, 15 years ago. So not 30, but it's been around a while now.

Re: Googlebook

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Post by fooker »

aggregator-ios wrote: post #120
650REDHAIR wrote: post #22

Awful branding aside this will be dead within 3 years. MacBook neo @ $499 and the ability to finance it leaves almost zero room in the US market for an Android laptop. *edit It looks like will be a ChromeOS successor and their demographic will be schools?

Branding is way off. Marketed as an AI laptop sounds like local inference to engineers, but no. The general public are weary of AI. The Neo is selling so well that Apple is running out of the A18 Pro chips. Rumors are that Apple may have 2 steps: mark as sold out, or upgrade to the latest iPhone SOC which comes with an upgrade to 12GB of RAM. I also suspect this is Ternus' first product launch as CEO (not officially…

> The general public are weary of AI.

Have you interacted with the 'general public' in the last year or so?

Every non-technical person I know uses AI for 'fact checking' now, as well as 'doing the math' before deciding something, despite these two literally being the well known blind spots of modern AI. People have adopted AI suspiciously cleanly into their habits and workflows.

The only person I have seen being weary of AI recently is a labor activist, for good reason.

Re: Googlebook

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Post by spiralcoaster »

What's funny is that these days if I see a Google product that I'm even remotely interested in, I just immediately write it off because I know it's something they will kill in a very short time frame.

It's just never worth the hassle of buying/using a Google product. Never.

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