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eBay Rejects GameStop's $56B Takeover as Not Credible

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Re: eBay Rejects GameStop's $56B Takeover as Not Credible

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> works for no salary Working for no salary is almost never charitable and is almost always just part of a larger tax avoidance scheme.

Yeah I've never thought that that was the win that people seem to think it is. When you're that high up in the company, you have so much stock that you can pretty easily get loans against for however much you need, and write off the interest in the process.

What U.S. tax code provision allows an individual to write off (non-primary-mortgage) loan interest?

Re: eBay Rejects GameStop's $56B Takeover as Not Credible

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Seems like a no brainer for people who want to go into a physical store without dealing with the hassle of waiting for the item to sell along with packaging and shipping.

Who wants to go to a physical store in 2026?

I always prefer that. When I buy something online, it's always because I couldn't find something suitable in a real store.

Re: eBay Rejects GameStop's $56B Takeover as Not Credible

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They still don’t have anywhere close to buying eBay.

Please see: Leveraged Buy Out. For the benefit of all the people on this thread not understanding what the proposal is for the acqusition: "A leveraged buyout (LBO) is the acquisition of a company (typically by a private equity firm) using a significant amount of borrowed money (debt) to meet the purchase price, often 60% to 90% of the total cost. The target company’s assets are used as collateral for the loans, whic…

The $20B letter from TB is the leveraged part of the buy out and the math still doesn't add up even if you for some reason allow GME to dispose of all their cash in the deal without taking a hit to their stock price.

Re: eBay Rejects GameStop's $56B Takeover as Not Credible

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Tbh, if you can convince someone to take your relatively worthless pieces of paper in exchange for your valuable asset, then your worthless pieces of paper are no longer worthless. Not much different than me having a bit of cash and putting 5% or 20% down to buy a home or car: now I’m a big asset and debt holder and you got some pieces of paper with dead presidents on it. That was the hard part of the deal: will (eno…

https://www.google.com/finance/beta/quote/EBAY:NASDAQ?window... eBay is doing fine.

$49b market cap.

Today Amazon is down 1.8%, or down ~$52b today.

EBay is surviving but blew the online shopping wave, despite having owned (and created?) a big proportion of it.

Re: eBay Rejects GameStop's $56B Takeover as Not Credible

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The TD Bank securities commitment of 20B to finance the deal and GameStop having a market cap far below the acquisition cost suggests that buying eBay would’ve been very problematic and risky for investors. But comparing it to K mart buying sears isn’t really accurate to me. Like yeah, GameStop clearly fits into the death of retail, and acquiring eBay does increase their market visibility or presence. Beyond that, wh…

TD didn't commit to $20B their letter only says they're "highly confident" they could raise that much. Very important distinction between the two.

The letter also said it was conditional on the combined entity maintaining investment-grade credit rating, which seems unlikely if the combined entity was saddled with $20B in debt.

Re: eBay Rejects GameStop's $56B Takeover as Not Credible

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He works his ass off. You obviously can't spot a bear trap :-) The lower range of $GME the past couple of years is nowhere near where the shorts are going to have to buy-in.

...ya'll are still doing this?

It's a literal cult. They have to believe there's some magic future where they magically end up controlling the world still, because otherwise they've been pumped for money they couldn't even afford.

Re: eBay Rejects GameStop's $56B Takeover as Not Credible

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It makes it feel sketchy. I don't know what the state of buyer protection is. I've read that sellers sometimes list in other countries to get around the PayPal buyer protections or otherwise get paid via some unprotected method. I can't believe all those hundreds of thousands of listings would continue to exist if there weren't some kind of pay off. Somebody's got to be making money somehow, as it's been happening fo…

> I've read that sellers sometimes list in other countries to get around the PayPal buyer protections The buyer protections don’t really vary much, but it’s true in some countries they get more protections but it’s more regarding to buyer’s remorse rather than Items Not As Described. > or otherwise get paid via some unprotected method At least in North America (and maybe everywhere else), you’ve been required to pay…

I don't know, man, I just know there's a lot of fake listings on eBay. I don't know what they're getting out of it, but I assume they're not just doing it for fun.

Re: eBay Rejects GameStop's $56B Takeover as Not Credible

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Why? Who isn't aware of eBay?

It's about the brand. Ehen shopping online, everyone may have heard of eBay, but how many people are going to go there first, as opposed to Amazon, Etsy, AliExpress, Temu, wherever else. And yes, eBay is going to have the weird eBay stuff, but if users don't even think to go looking there, they've lost a sale.

As one data point, if I want something new, I go Amazon first and eBay second. If I want something used, I go to eBay first. My search usually ends there, but if I can't find it there, I probably have to go to a specialty forum.

Even for bootleg stuff (mostly long out of print arcade hardware), eBay is pretty much on par with AliExpress.

Re: eBay Rejects GameStop's $56B Takeover as Not Credible

#159
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Any reasonable person could see this was a ridiculous clown show, put on by the ridiculous clown show meme stock company.

Imagine if the Tesla/X empire went for GME next.

Both are meme stocks, wildly overvalued according to any accounting of fundamentals, so I guess it'd be fitting.

Re: eBay Rejects GameStop's $56B Takeover as Not Credible

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As a avid eBay customer I am pretty relieved. I buy 2-3 items a month and was selling for the last 2 years on the platform. It's come such a long way and is really a great, streamlined experience. Of course I'm sure folks that make their living off their stores & sales will have different opinions, but I'd say as a routine customer and seller it doesn't need an external company's takeover pressure on it.

I buy and sell through eBay about once a month and I agree. eBay isn't perfect but over several hundred transactions and a few disputes that were settled fairly I've had a good experience. I know it's possible to have a bad experience and I'm not discounting those stories, but it's not the standard eBay experience. GameStop was trying to do a Private Equity style takeover. Everyone hates it when PE companies do that,…

I've had two disputes that materially ignored the facts of the dispute, in one case where even the buyer said he didn't and wouldn't do as agreed, and still won, costing me $700+.

You can't say "I've had a few disputes that were handled fairly, so when other people say there's weren't, that's not the standard eBay experience".

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