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Amazon employees are "tokenmaxxing" due to pressure to use AI tools

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Re: Amazon employees are "tokenmaxxing" due to pressure to use AI tools

#21

Someone pressuring to do something at work gives off creep vibes. Is that in the contract to use AI tools? If not, then what are they on about.

Think worst place I worked, you had to install an app like Time Bro and you had to account for all 8 hours of the day, some app logged per minute/hour.

Re: Amazon employees are "tokenmaxxing" due to pressure to use AI tools

#22

Someone pressuring to do something at work gives off creep vibes. Is that in the contract to use AI tools? If not, then what are they on about.

"someone pressuring you to do something at work" describes pretty much all jobs

Very very few jobs in the US give you a contract.

Re: Amazon employees are "tokenmaxxing" due to pressure to use AI tools

#23

This reads more like it's a single employees gripe than a real thing that's happening. They're not using the metrics in performance reviews, and it's a new AI tool that AWS probably wants legitimate usage data out of. That said, if you can't figure out how to use AI in a software job you should look into it. Not using AI at this point is a lot like not using CAD as an architect.

I have been not using AI since the beginning and nothing has changed for me. I have only watched my coworkers and the industry get dimmer and get faster at getting dimmer. I have witnessed professionals become total amateurs and form “well the AI generated this unreviewed report” as their basis of knowledge.

No thanks I’ll just watch y’all slip down the slope.

Re: Amazon employees are "tokenmaxxing" due to pressure to use AI tools

#25

Seems to be a clear case of Goodhart's Law that states that "when a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure."

That's true, but I don't know if this one was ever a good measure in the first place.

People use AI differently and they can be equally productive with a variety of token usage quantities.

Also, different kinds of work are differently amenable to using AI.

Re: Amazon employees are "tokenmaxxing" due to pressure to use AI tools

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I was thinking about this recently. I tend to run my AI at low context because the documentation states that they degrade with higher context usage. However I see tons of people on LinkedIn with ways of backing up context, not wanting to lose context, etc. This seems like another way the system is being misused. Higher context usage also uses more tokens. I suspect you get worse (and slower) output too than a dense d…

I think there are two motivations that get blurred pretty quickly:

a) you find a particular context that executes well and want to preserve parts of it or not have to repeat explanations

b) you want to continue a session so you don't have to rebuild the context from scratch

I think A is something where it's totally reasonable to preserve pieces as part of like a prompt library or equivalent, or directory-specific agent files, that kind of thing.

I think B is much more likely to lead to problems if you do it over a long time, but it can be pretty useful for getting the last drop of juice out of the metaphorical orange.

I think the antipattern (that I've done myself, admittedly) is swapping between different restored contexts for different tasks or roles - at that point you should be either converting it to more durable documentation if warranted, or curating it more specifically than "restore the entire context" even if it's just one-off.

Re: Amazon employees are "tokenmaxxing" due to pressure to use AI tools

#27

This reads more like it's a single employees gripe than a real thing that's happening. They're not using the metrics in performance reviews, and it's a new AI tool that AWS probably wants legitimate usage data out of. That said, if you can't figure out how to use AI in a software job you should look into it. Not using AI at this point is a lot like not using CAD as an architect.

> Not using AI at this point is a lot like not using CAD as an architect.

Does CAD software regularly generate an incorrect design that results in a catastrophic failure of the building?

Re: Amazon employees are "tokenmaxxing" due to pressure to use AI tools

#28

This reads more like it's a single employees gripe than a real thing that's happening. They're not using the metrics in performance reviews, and it's a new AI tool that AWS probably wants legitimate usage data out of. That said, if you can't figure out how to use AI in a software job you should look into it. Not using AI at this point is a lot like not using CAD as an architect.

I have been not using AI since the beginning and nothing has changed for me. I have only watched my coworkers and the industry get dimmer and get faster at getting dimmer. I have witnessed professionals become total amateurs and form “well the AI generated this unreviewed report” as their basis of knowledge. No thanks I’ll just watch y’all slip down the slope.

Agreed. AI usage seems to be mostly bragging on HN / LinkedIn

Re: Amazon employees are "tokenmaxxing" due to pressure to use AI tools

#29
I swear the industry is being Garry Tanned.

Senior management let go our localisation staff. Now they want us to use AI to translate. They still want manual review.

We use Github Copilot at work, we get a measly 300 requests with the budget to go over if necessary. Opus 4.7 or GPT 5.5 would eat all of those up in a day. Are we supposed to be using more than the allotted amount, do management see that as a good thing. Or is it best to stick within the allocated amount. Who knows? Management are playing games everywhere it seems.

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