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So when do we call out NPM as an easy supply chain vector and also Microsoft's ownership of NPM and their prioritisation of AI at any cost. NPM is the windows of package managers right now.
My decision to abandon the JS ecosystem and language entirely continues to pay off. What a mess... I am, however, concerned that this will pwn my workplace. We don't use Tanstack but this seems self-propagating and I doubt all of our dependencies are doing enough to prevent it.
Abandon NPM in exchange for what? Cargo? Go get? Pip install? Every package manager that does not analyze and run tests on the packages being uploaded (like Linux distros do) is vulnerable.
https://gajus.com/blog/3-pnpm-settings-to-protect-yourself-f...
Just a handful of settings to save a whole lot of trouble.
My decision to abandon the JS ecosystem and language entirely continues to pay off. What a mess... I am, however, concerned that this will pwn my workplace. We don't use Tanstack but this seems self-propagating and I doubt all of our dependencies are doing enough to prevent it.
Abandon NPM in exchange for what? Cargo? Go get? Pip install? Every package manager that does not analyze and run tests on the packages being uploaded (like Linux distros do) is vulnerable.
(I'm not being stupid, even ten years ago there were arguments on HN about whether you should audit your dependencies)
I landed on the 'yes, you should know what code you are getting involved with' side.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Abandon NPM in exchange for what? Cargo? Go get? Pip install? Every package manager that does not analyze and run tests on the packages being uploaded (like Linux distros do) is vulnerable.
Even linux was subjected to an attack in xz utils. Granted it is much harder and they have a much better auditing problem (something npm should learn from). There really isn't a silver bullet here unfortunately. The industry as a whole needs to get more serious about this.
One of the worst ecosystems that has been brought into the software industry and it is almost always via NPM. Not even Cargo (Rust) or go mod (Golang) get as many attacks because at least with the latter, they encourage you to use the standard library.
Both Javascript and Typescript have none and want you to import hundreds of libraries, increasing the risk of a supply chain attack.
At this point, JS and TS are considered harmful.
My decision to abandon the JS ecosystem and language entirely continues to pay off. What a mess... I am, however, concerned that this will pwn my workplace. We don't use Tanstack but this seems self-propagating and I doubt all of our dependencies are doing enough to prevent it.
Abandon NPM in exchange for what? Cargo? Go get? Pip install? Every package manager that does not analyze and run tests on the packages being uploaded (like Linux distros do) is vulnerable.
So when do we call out NPM as an easy supply chain vector and also Microsoft's ownership of NPM and their prioritisation of AI at any cost. NPM is the windows of package managers right now.
My decision to abandon the JS ecosystem and language entirely continues to pay off. What a mess... I am, however, concerned that this will pwn my workplace. We don't use Tanstack but this seems self-propagating and I doubt all of our dependencies are doing enough to prevent it.
Abandon NPM in exchange for what? Cargo? Go get? Pip install? Every package manager that does not analyze and run tests on the packages being uploaded (like Linux distros do) is vulnerable.
Go Get is closer to always locking dependencies unless you explicitly upgrade them with a go get, so it's much much better in my view.
Yes, you can lock deps in NPM/Cargo/etc. but that's not the default. It is the default in Go.
In Go projects my policy for upgrading dependencies includes running full AI audit of all code changed across all dependencies, comes out to ~$200 in tokens every time but it gives those warm 'not likely to get pwned' vibes. And it comes with a nice report of likely breaking changes etc.