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That's quite an unsubstantiated leap. The world has gone through plenty of digital transformations and the number of people in poverty has only _shrank_.
Doom is popular right now. People want to feel terrible and pessimistic and their media diets only reinforce this.
Students boo commencement speaker after she calls AI next industrial revolution
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#82> Speaking to graduates of University of Central Florida’s College of Arts and Humanities and Nicholson School of Communication and Media Well, yeah.
It's interesting that I'm only seeing this kind of anti-ai tendency only in American/Western art circles. Anywhere else in Middle East/Asia, artists are having fun experimenting with it.
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How am I going to do any of that when I can't pay the bills and become homeless? That's what actually happens when you don't have jobs.
Think ST:TNG; automation makes enough stuff. Why worry about money?
So focus on political action then; log off this VC funded freebie intended to ameliorate your feelings about the rich owners and operators of this site, and do like they do; tell government to make things right by you or we replace government.
You think PG is sitting on the sidelines letting Congress figure out themselves? He's putting his thumb on the scale through his actions through social networking with politicians.
Gotta leave the basement and do the work
Americans are heavily propagandized and naive af. So exhausted by educated morons.
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#84There's a very real possibility that AI proponents completely lose the next generation of adults. The output is not enjoyable to consume, the people who rely on it are not cool, and the effects of using it are unpleasant and hard to defend on aesthetic, intellectual, or moral grounds. There are real use cases for this technology! But the idea that the generation of superficially plausible text is "the next Industrial…
My great hope for AI is that it kills social media by making 99% of content and comments untrustworthy and not worth consuming.
I proposed once a while back that we should have the HN admins strip all integer counts for a week server-side, to see if the site quality improved or worsened during that time. The mods suggested I ask HN, so I did. HN loathed the idea of it, for every possible reason except this one: removing all those integers would be like quitting gambling cold turkey after years of pulling the vote lever every day. I’m not much less vulnerable to this than everyone else, but I still want to see it happen someday. I remain reasonably confident that our social media site’s quality would skyrocket after a couple days of our posts and comments being disinfected of make-integer-go-up jackpots.
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Owe is an interesting choice of a word. Don't get me wrong, I personally am of the opinion that, by default, most schools for most programs, the related body of works can be accomplished by a warm body ( some of it based on personal anecdotes -- in US mind you ). There are exceptions and those include some non-humanities and, well, people who are curious ( but that was always true for them ). Still, just because a te…
> in US mind you
That is my only reference.
> Still, just because a technology facilitates something does not make their distaste any less potent.
Sure, I agree once again. I may have not explained my position well initially. I just cannot help but feel it's a little hypocritical. And again, hypocritical might be a poor word to use.
We have kids booing a commencement speaker after her AI comment (which I think was a distasteful comment), but at UCLA's graduation a few days ago, we had this: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zSqOPOzrIig
(Student's explanation: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rswUgIfj1YU)
I think why I am having difficulty describing what I am thinking is because there is not one homogeneous group of students. There is clearly a subset of students that oppose AI's current and future costs/benefits. Though, at the same time, there is a different subset of students that heavily rely on AI. Some to even a problematic degree.
I have a few friends that are professors at a prestigious, private university in my city. They have all shared their little tricks in how they are trying to combat AI usage in academics. Some put hidden white text in the margins of their assignments. When citations are submitted with work, they look for the the 'utm?=chatgpt' in the urls. Some of the foreign language professors craft writing prompts with words that they know LLMs often tend to translate incorrectly.
Based on the research I can find via a few quick searches, it appears that in the populations of the studies, AI usage is far more common than AI abstinence. I imagine these students want to use AI to benefit themselves but not harm themselves in the future. I do not fault them for that in the slightest, but I do not think that is how things are going to end up working out. I strongly believe the students that misuse AI to do their work for them -- not help them -- will be in for a rude awaking.
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#86Somehow I have a feeling that the reaction would have been totally different if it would have been the EECS graduates.
Fear and rejection in certain professions is real and maybe even understandable.
I imagine 25 years ago someone telling music graduates “streaming is the future of music distribution” would have received the same reaction.
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#87Re: Students boo commencement speaker after she calls AI next industrial revolution
#88There's a very real possibility that AI proponents completely lose the next generation of adults. The output is not enjoyable to consume, the people who rely on it are not cool, and the effects of using it are unpleasant and hard to defend on aesthetic, intellectual, or moral grounds. There are real use cases for this technology! But the idea that the generation of superficially plausible text is "the next Industrial…
> comes out of the same mindset that has turned a neat technology into a banal hellscape for consumers and employees I'm going to say up front that I'm not as familiar with this period of history as I should be, but -- would it be totally unfair to say the same of the "Industrial Revolution"? I'm not gonna say they're equivalent by any means, but my understanding is the "Industrial Revolution" was hellish for many pe…
Maybe AI enables great inventions in a decade, but for now the only appeal is that multinational corporations get to fire workers and everything's filled with slop. Of course they're not happy.
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#89Re: Students boo commencement speaker after she calls AI next industrial revolution
#90There's a very real possibility that AI proponents completely lose the next generation of adults. The output is not enjoyable to consume, the people who rely on it are not cool, and the effects of using it are unpleasant and hard to defend on aesthetic, intellectual, or moral grounds. There are real use cases for this technology! But the idea that the generation of superficially plausible text is "the next Industrial…
We’re past plausible text since GPT-2 and it’s undeniable that the technology is making waves right now and is having an impact.
As you can’t judge the impact of the Industrial Revolution by the first steam engines, you can’t dismiss the impact the technology is having right now.