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Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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“Our cloud services are inundated” … says company that killed product from working offline and forced it to be connected

You can put your printers in LAN Mode to not use their cloud. You just have to choose one or the other, and the software in question enabled features they didn't want unless you ran off their cloud.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That comes with a big caveat. You can either choose to use the printer offline, or online, with no ability to use both. If you want the ability to monitor or pause a print when you're not home on the off chance something goes wrong, you HAVE to send every print through their cloud, there's no middle ground. That's not Bambu being open, that's them doing the absolute minimum to allow people to say "you can use Bambu p…

Monitoring is still possible with Tailscale and Bambu Companion (or a number of third party apps you can put on a Raspberry Pi or similar) https://testflight.apple.com/join/VXBxZYNr https://bambuddy.cool/

OK. This doesn't change my view that Bambu is not open, and just does the bare minimum so people can't say it's completely closed.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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post #66

I made the tragic mistake of getting a Bambu printer (an X1C, with AMS even...) right before they gave all of us the middle finger. I now have it offline, running out of date firmware, connected to a special WiFi network that is isolated from the Internet. That upset me, but now I'm pissed. Now I don't even care about their stupid printers. Now I'd like to waste Bambu Lab's time and cause problems for them. And also,…

Once you have a reliable printer, the workflow is mostly to slice -> send to printer -> wait and check on it every couple of hours until it's done ime. Imo it no longer super matters how much better the on-screen ui or webcam are. Mutli-color though is where Bambu has a good leg up. (Diluted) Vision Miner Nano Polymer Adhesive and a good bed leveling probe has done a lot to make my printer set and forget, no matter w…

Wasn’t the main hassle in calibrarion and Bambu was good in that and is major reason for popularity? So ”once you have a reliable printer” is kinda big thing.

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Definitely gives me second thoughts about getting one. They look like easiest way to get into 3d printing as a tool (rather than another hobby), but their recent attitude just makes me think I should suffer a bit less advanced product just to not have to deal with that shit.

RE: 3D printer as a tool, I recommend Teaching Tech's video (1) as a guide to choosing the right 3D printer. His first question is "Will you use your 3D printer as a tool or a hobby?", followed by the priorities that flow from that choice, e.g. pretty looking prints, or accurate parts that fit together.

1: https://youtu.be/JCHUOQ7yby0

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

#125
post #66

I made the tragic mistake of getting a Bambu printer (an X1C, with AMS even...) right before they gave all of us the middle finger. I now have it offline, running out of date firmware, connected to a special WiFi network that is isolated from the Internet. That upset me, but now I'm pissed. Now I don't even care about their stupid printers. Now I'd like to waste Bambu Lab's time and cause problems for them. And also,…

I'm also in the same boat of regret, but for other reasons. Their support team is beyond awful. I purchased an H2S AMS combo just shy of two months ago (mostly because I saw it being praised by HNers a while back) and found out recently that the AMS they've sent me is defective. It's been truly a bizarre experience trying to deal with customer support. They told me to disassemble the AMS and swap a couple of modules that they mailed me. I did, provided them evidence that I did, and provided evidence that it didn't fix the problem. Their response was to claim that I didn't actually swap the modules and that because of that my warranty no longer applies, and then they said they'd give me a free roll of filament for my troubles (lol). At that point I began the process of invoking the consumer protections afforded to me. Called my credit card company and opened a dispute, invoked Massachusetts law M.G.L. c. 93A, and I'm about to contact my AG.

It's a shame they're going in such an anti-consumer direction, both with their gaslighting customer support and the lawfare against Orca.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right up there with the Not Just Bikes guy on YouTube who used to talk about how transit-oriented cities are great or would show some positive stuff from somewhere. Now it's just endless videos about how cars suck, cities suck, even a lot of transit sucks. The constant negativity is such a put-off.

It’s like the best you can hope for your small hobby YouTube channel is to graduate to general outrage.

All hail the mighty algorithm.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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post #66

I made the tragic mistake of getting a Bambu printer (an X1C, with AMS even...) right before they gave all of us the middle finger. I now have it offline, running out of date firmware, connected to a special WiFi network that is isolated from the Internet. That upset me, but now I'm pissed. Now I don't even care about their stupid printers. Now I'd like to waste Bambu Lab's time and cause problems for them. And also,…

It may not have been a feature then, but you can run updated firmware and still keep it offline by using Developer Mode. https://wiki.bambulab.com/en/knowledge-sharing/enable-develo...

I don't trust it anymore. I'm using LAN mode today, I have little incentive to update. If I update to anything, it will certainly be third-party modified firmware.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say Prussa. I am not going to say they are perfect, but I think they have a good balance of ethics, openness, product quality, innovation, availability and price. By that I mean their are the best in none of them, but I don't think of anything better as a combination.

Prusa sat on its haunches for a decade, happy to leave progress on the table as long as their salaries got paid. Bambu actually got non-technical people into the hobby and has always had more bang per buck. Buy a bambu; use Orcaslicer Edit: didn't mean to say "held the industry back"; I would categorize my opinion more along the lines of "were happy to get fat on past offerings" or the like.

Prusa is generally like Apple in that regard, in that they wait for the new technology to be tried and true before committing their design(s) to it. CoreXY is the most prominent example.

Prusa was actually the "non-technical" printer company for quite a while though. They would sell to schools and libraries, and still do, and offer(ed) assembled kits.

I don't own a Prusa, I've assembled Vorons and have a highly-modified Ender 3 S1, but if I was in the market to get a user-friendly printer, or recommend one, I'd get a Prusa.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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I’m so torn about bambulabs. Prusa needs to redesign their core one so it doesn’t use 3D printed parts (I get how that’s part of their philosophy but it’s not working anymore), $400 cheaper, and have a reliable AMS system. There’s just no other brand that can compete with Bambulab right now in terms of price vs performance.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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post #2

Who are some 3D printer vendors that are worthy of support?

Prusa. And my Raise3D E2 has been solid for ~5 years. I can't directly compare it to Bambu, but it was a massive step up from the Creality Ender it replaced. It's a "Just works" machine.
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