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GPT-5.5 Price Increase: What It Costs

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Re: GPT-5.5 Price Increase: What It Costs

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I feel very lost in these threads. A lot of people talk about getting bad results from gpt 5.5 xH or Opus 4.7 xH.

And here I am daily driving Sonnet 4.6 with medium or high thinking. I actually am thoroughly satisfied with the work it does. Perhaps it has to do with the bite sized pieces of work I give it, that fits better with my workflow.

Re: GPT-5.5 Price Increase: What It Costs

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In terms of work done per dollar, new models from OpenAI and Anthropic are worse than the older models. They are trying to squeeze the customers. For personal use I switched to coding plans containing GLM 5.1, Kimi K2.6 and Xiaomi MiMo V2.5 Pro and I never been happier. I said goodbye to both Claude Max and Cursor.

which ones are those?

Re: GPT-5.5 Price Increase: What It Costs

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I feel that the recent iterations of LLM haven't provided an intuitive qualitative leap. Have they entered a bottleneck period so quickly?

For what is worth I find GPT 5.5 qualitatively different than 5.4 and 5.3 If I had to collapse the nature of the difference in one sentence it'd be that the 5.5 does more what I'm asking it to do versus doing a small aspect of what I'm asking then stopping. 5.4 required a lot of "continue" encouragement. 5.5 just "gets it" a bit more What is boils down to for me is that even though it's more expensive I would much ra…

5.5 is overcomplicating it. Where the solution is e.g. changing some oidc auth url, it goes around and verifies and check and builds this and that to eventually change the url, and then write a summary.

It is unable to do K.I.S.S . Instead of adding just an endpoint, it creates a service, middleware, config reader and finally an endpoint.

LLMs are nowhere near being good developers. The only thing they have is speed. Because of this speed they create the illusion of a good developer, the whoa moment. Whoa it would've taken me 2 months to implement this. Yeah but then again you would not make such silly mistakes and you would've reused that oidc client instead of reinventing the wheel every single time.

Re: GPT-5.5 Price Increase: What It Costs

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In terms of work done per dollar, new models from OpenAI and Anthropic are worse than the older models. They are trying to squeeze the customers. For personal use I switched to coding plans containing GLM 5.1, Kimi K2.6 and Xiaomi MiMo V2.5 Pro and I never been happier. I said goodbye to both Claude Max and Cursor.

What coding plans are you using that let you use those models specifically and not pay per token? Which provider?

Re: GPT-5.5 Price Increase: What It Costs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Azure recently discontinued the gpt-4.1 model. I had to move off of this model, and moving to any gpt-5* model was worse (higher failures & less accuracy), and more expensive. I had to rewrite the entire system from high school level prompts to lower elementary school level prompts using non-gpt models. I would say models entered a bottleneck a long time ago. My personal opinion is now they are overfitting newer mode…

Can you elaborate what kind of system you built? I'm curious what specific prompts are getting worse responses with the newer models.

Linguistics, specifically as it pertains to language learning

Edit: Whoops read your question wrong. I do a bunch of NLP on different languages, and use LLMs to pad out and interpret the data. Asking for things like translations, alternatives, transliterations; associating and validating data; transferring data from one language to another; segmentation and cross lingual alignment; the list goes on.

I did manage to get higher quality in the end, so it’s not entirely a regression. But older LLMs were much more capable with less prompting at interpreting disparate data and tying it together.

Most of the work I do does not really have a “right answer,” just a lot of wrong ones, which I think is what trips up LLMs. If I turn on reasoning for any step in my pipeline, the token count goes up 100 fold and the quality gets cut in half.

Edit 2: I did have to move off of GPT though to get the improvements mentioned. Go mistral!

Re: GPT-5.5 Price Increase: What It Costs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you elaborate what kind of system you built? I'm curious what specific prompts are getting worse responses with the newer models.

Linguistics, specifically as it pertains to language learning Edit: Whoops read your question wrong. I do a bunch of NLP on different languages, and use LLMs to pad out and interpret the data. Asking for things like translations, alternatives, transliterations; associating and validating data; transferring data from one language to another; segmentation and cross lingual alignment; the list goes on. I did manage to g…

What kind of data are you interpreting? Do you mean document extraction from different languages? I have only used GPT5.5 for agentic coding, which did get significantly better from my experience, although that does align with your conjecture of their focus being on improving this. I haven't noticed a regression when it comes to interacting with it in different languages though (specifically German and Russian). I have done data extraction from documents in different languages, but only with locally hosted LLMs (mainly Qwen3.5-397b) as I cannot legally use cloud-based solutions. My local solution was more than sufficient, so I would be surprised if a frontier model would fail at that.

Re: GPT-5.5 Price Increase: What It Costs

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~3.5x more expensive to run my benchmarks[0]. [0]: https://aibenchy.com/compare/openai-gpt-5-4-medium/openai-gp...

Sure, but it did better on the test, which matches OpenAI's claim. More bang for more buck. Interestingly, using your tests as a comparison, 5.5 low beats 5.4 medium at a 82% of the cost.[0] [0]: https://aibenchy.com/compare/openai-gpt-5-4-medium/openai-gp...

5.5 is definitely smarter indeed.

And yes, 5.5 low seems to be as good as 5.4 medium, but a lot cheaper. In my experience that also holds up in real-life n8n agentic usage, so using 5.5 low is the best way to go atm.

Re: GPT-5.5 Price Increase: What It Costs

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~3.5x more expensive to run my benchmarks[0]. [0]: https://aibenchy.com/compare/openai-gpt-5-4-medium/openai-gp...

Interesting test results. GLM-5 is ranked better than GLM-5.1

I think it's because the tests are more for general intelligence, but 5.1 is likely aimed more towards agentic coding and tool usage, so it lost a bit of intelligence in exchange for consistency and more focus coding use-case.
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