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Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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I did quick search and bambu p2s seems to be 30% faster than prusa mk4s and few hundred cheaper. Prusa is more accurate, more open and has better spare parts supply. Bambu doesn't have wifi connection unless I use their cloud? I'm gonna keep using mk4s.

I’ve always got more consistent and accurate prints out of my x1c versus the prusa mk3 i tolerated. Even just the enclosure makes the bambu experience more much more consistent in my experience

The enclosure is the real added value, hardware-wise; and the H2D has even better environmental control (active heating and cooling of chamber).

While the open-source part of me loves the more open nature of Prusa, the commercial-minded part loves the immediate convenience of the Bambu. But the environmental control is something which Prusa doesn't really do well yet. Heated chamber, as well as filament humidity control is something Bambu has done which Prusa has not, and when it comes to printing with "engineering" filaments like PA6CF, PA6GF and other higher-end lubricating plastics for bearings etc, along with support filaments like PVA which are incredibly hygroscopic, the Bambu is the only contender if you want high-quality prints that don't warp.

IMO this is where Prusa gave up the race and need to catch up. Give me equivalent or better environmental control, and I'll be happy to consider it.

The accessibility to non-experts, and the fact that it just works out of the box without fiddling around optimising settings, is why I have a Bambu family at work and zero Prusas.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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> Are either of you pledging $10k to defend hackers in court? Sure, I’ll pledge $10K to the developer who already declared that he’s not interested in fighting a legal battle for this project. That’s easy.

> Sure I'll post a snarky comment without getting familiar with the subject whatsoever. The bounties are real and awarded [1]. [1] https://bounties.fulu.org/bounties?status=closed

I searched for Bambu and there were 0 results.

Also that site is a disaster of a UI. It reloads on every single character entry while you’re trying to type in the search term.

Also please don’t fake-quote other people with things they didn’t say:

> > Sure I'll post a snarky comment without getting familiar with the subject whatsoever.

It’s even worse when you haven’t become familiar enough with the subject to share a worthwhile link.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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And yet he’s having an effect. Are either of you pledging $10k to defend hackers in court? I can hardly believe headlines like these are met with anything but cheers. It’s literally the hacker spirit in the classical sense: a big company is trying to legally threaten a project offline, and people like Louis are helping prevent that. You could at least throw in a “it’s cool that he’s pledging money” before insulting h…

> I can hardly believe headlines like these are met with anything but cheers. My point is that I have an issue with his tone and rhetoric, not with the thing he’s advocating. He appeals to a certain audience that likes rage over proper discourse. I am fairly certain the HN etiquette prefers proper discourse over rage.

It seems to me you're style over substance then.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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Who are some 3D printer vendors that are worthy of support?

I would have said Prusa a year or two ago but they've reneged a little on their open-ness. That was probably in response to Bambu being fully closed and gaining so much market share. The Core line of printers seems promising and a big leap towards closing the gap towards Bambu's corexy printers but haven't used one yet and I've been out of the game a little. Bambu though is probably more of a high-end appliance type…

I splurged a while ago and got a pre-assembled Core One. It worked great right out of the box and is has been worry-free so far. So far, I've treated it very much like an appliance with no tinkering on my part yet.

The machine is still quite hackable. Prusa publishes the firmware and CAD files for their printers, although the CAD files aren't under a fully open license. The support is generally nice to people who tinker with their printers and sometimes even seems to be genuinely invested in seeing tinkering projects succeed.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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> I can hardly believe headlines like these are met with anything but cheers. My point is that I have an issue with his tone and rhetoric, not with the thing he’s advocating. He appeals to a certain audience that likes rage over proper discourse. I am fairly certain the HN etiquette prefers proper discourse over rage.

It seems to me you're style over substance then.

The comment at the top of this thread was literally defending Rossmann based on his style (passionate, vulnerable) over his substance (factual accuracy)

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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Bambu also tried to patent several widely used techniques in china, fyi. https://www.mdpi.com/2411-5134/8/6/141

Josef Prusa also commented on this last year: https://www.josefprusa.com/articles/open-hardware-in-3d-prin...

The motive appears to be to get tax credits as opposed to becoming a full-on patent troll, though with how quickly China is speedrunning their version of capitalism I would not be surprised if it turns into patent trolling.

Their behaviour overall is really giving me mixed feelings, because the Bambu A1 I have is an absolutely amazing machine for the price, and I've been casually in this since the Printrbot days.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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Louis is one of the most passionate YouTubers you can watch. I don't think he gets it right 100% of the time, but when you are that vulnerable (and what appears to be authentic) you're bound to not make the the right call every once in awhile (as we all do). I support him even though people can pick him apart.

As a matter of fact he's a never-ending source of drama and outrage, all of which are his own opinions. His repair channel isn't even about repair anymore, it's all drama, all the time. I can hardly believe people fall for his shtick anymore.

With Louis, it's been a journey of "how I learn to stop worrying and enjoy the angry repain guy"

He gets a bunch of things wrong since it's mostly reactionary content but he is willing to correct himself when he gets things wrong.

He does a lot to prevent companies from screwing over customers and that in of itself is good enough that in willing to overlook his flaws

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

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I made the tragic mistake of getting a Bambu printer (an X1C, with AMS even...) right before they gave all of us the middle finger. I now have it offline, running out of date firmware, connected to a special WiFi network that is isolated from the Internet. That upset me, but now I'm pissed. Now I don't even care about their stupid printers. Now I'd like to waste Bambu Lab's time and cause problems for them. And also,…

After my initial Ender 3v2 (which was my entry point to 3D printing, but a terrible printer otherwise), we bought a Prusa even thought it was much more expensive than Bambu because we wanted to support a European company and because as a European company they are under the GDPR.

It has been absolutely great and low-effort. I haven't needed it yet, but their printers seem to be focused on easy maintenance by their owners.

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