Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

A network smuggling Starlink tech into Iran to beat internet blackout

bbc.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

171–177 of 177 posts

Re: A network smuggling Starlink tech into Iran to beat internet blackout

#171

Post by bigyabai »

spwa4 wrote: post #168
bigyabai wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The OSINT is a bigger threat than the state media in Iran, hence the internet blackout.

Yeah, indeed. But you neglect to state why: the population hates the islamist government to such an extent that the Iranian population would use the internet to give US/Israel targeting coordinates for EVERY Iranian official. From Parlementarians, right down to half the traffic cops. The "supreme leader" (wonder if that comes with salami) was famously targeted so successfully because Iranians gave Mossad access to tr…

I'm not trying to spin it as support for the regime, there's no part of the thread where I did so. CENTCOM and the State of Israel both deal with the same threat vector, and their response is to use the NSA's SIGINT technology to track, profile and selectively censor their threats. The IRGC lacks the technology to perform that same level of domestic spycraft, so they naturally reach for a blanket blackout (much like what we see in Moscow right now).

There are objectively smart and dumb choices that can be made in this conflict. It's smart to blockade Iran as soon as the Strait closes, it's smart to prefer diplomacy to a taxpayer-funded land invasion. Similarly, I will credit the IRGC with using the blackout to their advantage. It's a tactically potent, symmetrical response that refuses to cede leverage to the BLUFOR coalition. Their cards are being played so well that it's fair to ask whether or not the CCP is just spoonfeeding them American tactics they found through Salt Typhoon.

Re: A network smuggling Starlink tech into Iran to beat internet blackout

#172

Post by spwa4 »

bigyabai wrote: post #171
spwa4 wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, indeed. But you neglect to state why: the population hates the islamist government to such an extent that the Iranian population would use the internet to give US/Israel targeting coordinates for EVERY Iranian official. From Parlementarians, right down to half the traffic cops. The "supreme leader" (wonder if that comes with salami) was famously targeted so successfully because Iranians gave Mossad access to tr…

I'm not trying to spin it as support for the regime, there's no part of the thread where I did so. CENTCOM and the State of Israel both deal with the same threat vector, and their response is to use the NSA's SIGINT technology to track, profile and selectively censor their threats. The IRGC lacks the technology to perform that same level of domestic spycraft, so they naturally reach for a blanket blackout (much like…

> Similarly, I will credit the IRGC with using the blackout to their advantage ...

No it's not. It's just doing what they always do: taking hostages and threatening to damage a LOT of people's lives just so they can feel good, feel strong without of course actually being strong, with both themselves and the Iranian population living in misery just to cause problems for the rest of the world. They have made every last friend they have into enemies. Both the Iraqi and Lebanese governments are attacking them now.

Hostages when you have no way out ... is about as smart as a bank robber taking a hostage. It helps until the snipers arrive. Then, a bullet with your name on it gets loaded and no further comment from you is required. Iran's islamists are creating a situation where the entire world has no other choice but to destroy them.

It is beyond stupid. The outcome they are desperate to create would utterly destroy THEM. And in their desperate attempts to so that they're giving everyone who might have chosen to protect them into enemies screaming at the world that they need to be dealt with.

Re: A network smuggling Starlink tech into Iran to beat internet blackout

#173

Post by z3ncyberpunk »

nixon_why69 wrote: post #133
tgma wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Changing the goalposts much? From no one was ever happy not even once to limiting to an arbitrary date in the calendar. I can't take your rant seriously. Of course there have been wars whose results improve the conditions of the population. There is no denying that. > France... How does that relate to Iran? Iran is also occupied by Mullah-IRGC-Palestine axis that have no overlap with the values 85%+ of the population…

Did you just say -Palestine axis? Like they're the ones calling the shots here? Before USA/Israel started bombing girls' schools and creating oil rain over all of Tehran, there were protests against the rulership that had to be brutally repressed. After that, there were people in the streets waving Iranian flags in Tehran.

Before the IRGC bombed girls' schools*

Re: A network smuggling Starlink tech into Iran to beat internet blackout

#175

Post by fgfarben »

SXX wrote: post #166
fgfarben wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you lie about this?

I am from Russia even though not living there for last 4 years. And I able to compare because I have a lot of friends in Russia. Censorship and VPN blocks are bad there. I've also been to Shanghai recently and there I can just use HK roaming eSIM and it work super fast, reliable and with no censorship. No passport required to buy it online, no anything. Same with any other tourist eSIM.

Thanks

Re: A network smuggling Starlink tech into Iran to beat internet blackout

#176

Post by Jabrov »

Mikhail_Edoshin wrote: post #76
Jabrov wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are not we

The person takes the responsibility; you are excluding him from the society that you implicitly claim to represent. These two are very different intentions.

I’m not American, and reminding OP that we’re not all American on this site

Re: A network smuggling Starlink tech into Iran to beat internet blackout

#177

Post by [deleted] »

z3ncyberpunk wrote: post #169
ajewhere2 wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

15? There were more than a hundred girls killed in their school by an american missile, just in one of the strikes among many, many thousands. And I think it is just a small part which escaped the western information blockade on the war you started with Iran, most of what happened is not reported.

The one that the IR admitted to there being no Tomahawk missles? That their own failed missile bombed? That school killed by "american missles"? Gtfo with your Islamic Regime propaganda

[deleted]
Post reply on HN