Scientists warn Atlantic current at risk of shutting down
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Re: Scientists warn Atlantic current at risk of shutting down
#2Hot take on HN, but techno-optimism sounds so stupid when it comes to climate change... You can't engineer macro climate/ecology, since capital has no interest in human and it's surrounding environment balanced cohabitation.
Re: Scientists warn Atlantic current at risk of shutting down
#3Wait I've seen this... Day before the day after tomorrow right?
Re: Scientists warn Atlantic current at risk of shutting down
#4“Scientists” have been warning the world about this since Stommel issued his paper in 1961:
https://tellusjournal.org/articles/10.3402/tellusa.v13i2.949...
It’s going to shut down
The ice caps and antartic ice are going to melt entirely
The Gulf Stream is going to collapse
Global emissions have skyrocketed with no brakes since then
1.5C target was a joke. 2.0 target is a joke. There is no world where humans can coordinate in a way that reduces global emissions
MAYBE by accident with enough selfishness around not wanting to die. I don’t see it though
Re: Scientists warn Atlantic current at risk of shutting down
#5Hot take on HN, but techno-optimism sounds so stupid when it comes to climate change... You can't engineer macro climate/ecology, since capital has no interest in human and it's surrounding environment balanced cohabitation.
Climate also doesn't change in macro over a lifetime.
It's very real, but the notion that it's changing over a 5 year period is nonsense.
things aren't "shutting off".
Re: Scientists warn Atlantic current at risk of shutting down
#6Time to deploy sulfate aerosols in the stratosphere https://claude.ai/public/artifacts/73f7f362-9890-4375-9a92-1...
Re: Scientists warn Atlantic current at risk of shutting down
#7not to diss the science and the work involved around it but this kind of alarmist stuff makes me wonder how many similar things have happened in the past but nobody noticed because nobody was looking or even knew how to track such a thing, the environment is so complex, seems unlikely that we can make heads or tails of this, and in 50 years some new understanding will flip all of our current models (no pun intended!), so what’s really the value of such “warnings”? money went into this, where does it ultimately go?
Re: Scientists warn Atlantic current at risk of shutting down
#8Isn’t calling AMOC “the primary source of warmth for northern Europe” wildly overstated?
Re: Scientists warn Atlantic current at risk of shutting down
#9Hot take on HN, but techno-optimism sounds so stupid when it comes to climate change... You can't engineer macro climate/ecology, since capital has no interest in human and it's surrounding environment balanced cohabitation.
Climate also doesn't change in macro over a lifetime. It's very real, but the notion that it's changing over a 5 year period is nonsense. things aren't "shutting off".
Wishful thinking...
I wonder how people like you end up so hostile to experts.
Re: Scientists warn Atlantic current at risk of shutting down
#10Hot take on HN, but techno-optimism sounds so stupid when it comes to climate change... You can't engineer macro climate/ecology, since capital has no interest in human and it's surrounding environment balanced cohabitation.
> capital has no interest
Selfish humans. "Capital" is a mental model, it's not some force of nature or hand of god.